I went to college with a Danish guy who is now serving in the Life Guards. Ironically the only unit of the Danish Army that doesn't allow beards

It's been demonstrated to American soldiers how the beard has to be cut

Keep the neck clear

It's not exposed in a chemical attack any more than other body parts

The Navy and Coast Guard up until the 80s allowed beards, and they are still allowed on subs. I live in a sub town and see bearded sailors from the US and UK every day

Closest major city's fire department allows beards also

We have promasks at the CSU and we have beards.

We train with SRT from our dept, local agencies, we've even worked with military and feds on occasion. We've gassed shoot houses and then went inside with masks. Works just fine

It's simply bullshit from higher ranking people who think that the army is always right, that everything they do has meaning and purpose

https://youtu.be/9OU2iKLhdkw

I would love to see those damn Yankees try to take this monument down.

Not all Yankees hate the monuments m8

But all people who hate monuments are Yankees.

Yankees have no history. That's why their mad at everyone else's glorious history

^Truth.

Should I do an entire deconstruction of the arguments for removing the Confederate Monuments?

Yes

Nah there's southern trash who hate them too

You should do an entire deconstruction of the arguments for removing the Confederate Monuments

Except CS gas is different from all the other stuff masks are used against.

Well, let me go over the lowest hanging fruit out of them all first.

“The Confederacy was fighting for White Supremacy” is one of the most obvious arguments used against them. The problem with this argument is that, during the time, both sides would be what we would define as “white supremacists.” The north believed Blacks were just as inferior as southerners believed them to be. The North also was extremely discriminatory to East Asians (Chinese), Italians, and Irishmen due to being mainly WASPs and supporting white, Anglo-Saxon Protestant culture over other cultures. They were, by that category, also “white supremacists” by definition.

@TheKekscernist easy. John Graves Simcoe has statues in Canada.

What does gas have to do with this?

It's in the name of one of my favorite songs?

I mean

gas is basically the solution to most things now

it's replacing bullets

Rags is on a gas mask vs Beard stint

Another argument is the quite often the comparison of the Confederacy and Confederate veterans and Confederate Leaders to Nazis or any type of dictatorship. This is misleading because the South was not a dictatorship nor an ideological movement, but a regional, political movement that came about due to a fundamental disagreement with the Federal Government over how the institution of slavery should be handled. In other words, Confederates are not equivalent to Nazis. They are more closely related to something like the IRA or the Scottish Independence movement under William Wallace rather than an ideological movement like the Nazi regime or the Soviet Union.

He believes that the Army not allowing beards is a conspiracy when he has experience with people using masks and beards.

But there is more to it than cs gas

Also, no one cares about beards right now.

Rags does

And you posted the article that started it so apparently you care a little.

I posted the article that was made into a meme for people to read.

@Deleted User Hard pill to swallow:
Sometimes the big green weenie is right
No beards and gas masks
FIGHT ME

But, anyways, those are two arguments I hear quite often. There’s a good number of other arguments, which, when applied any level of scrutiny, simply fall apart.

Thing is though, a mask creating a better seal against bare skin is common sense.

It might be "good enough" with a beard but is that really something you would accept in a CBRNE environment?

Like what would create a better seal suction cup on glass or carpet?