Я ж украинец

А розмовляєш?

Можу розмовляти, але я майже завжди розмовляю російською мовою

Мені вона легше і більше подобається

хоча нічого не маю проти української

Просто справа звички

Ти з російськомовної сім'ї?

так

Нема проблем, якщо тобі легше російською - пиши російською

Але краще практикувати українську

писати однаково якою, а розмовляти легше російською

Хоча ні, писати українською теж важче бо потрібно переключати мову на англійську щоб поставити апострофа

А чого кажеш краще практикувати українську?

Ну, я вже звик

я вважаю це не принципове питання якою мовою розмовляти

Просто не думаю, що комуністична агітація російською буде мати якийсь вплив

Подумають, що ти з Росії приїхав

До речі це має сенс, бо тут для багатьох комуніст = агент кремля

От і я про це

тож це може трохи розірвати шаблони деяких громадян

Треба бити буржуазну свідомість у найбільш неочікувану точку

Російськомовний Схід легше піддається

На Заході буде важче

Але якщо переконаємо Захід, то перемога наша

Є потенціал для протесту

Але ревситуації ще довго не буде

Народ розчарувався Майданом

І вважає, що революція нічого не змінить

Та майдан то і не був ревситуацією на справді

Та я знаю

Хоча більшість не розрізняє революцію та буржуазний переворот, тож так

Ще процес може швидше піти, якщо будемо трохи загравати з націоналізмом. Типу штрасеризм з українською специфікою. Але з іншого боку це скоріш за все буде повний провал

Бо всякі С14 теж себе презентують, як "соціал"-націоналісти

І взагалі всяке націлайно полюбляє спочатку використовувати лівопопулістську риторику

Загравати з націоналізмом - не варіант, напирати на патріотизм (типу країна була огого, а тепер ніщо, комунізм зробив її сильною раз, зробить і другий) - обов'язково

Ну це спочатку треба спростувати антикомуністичні міфи і довести що і насправді країна була непоганою і мала майбутнє

Еге ж

Важко уявити як це зробити для західних українців

Економіка

На Заході вона постраждала набагато більше

Маєш на увазі після здобуття незалежності?

Так

@everyone @Advocatus Diaboli is a new mod for <#334412540467609610> channel

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They didnt even censor me

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@Advocatus Diaboli Who the fuck are you?

Dont care, hes a fag

Well, you're a centrist here

@Deleted User Marxist-Leninist Ukrainian

^^

Yes and?

You're a communist.

Which is 1000 times worse.

There's nothing worse than being a centrist

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surrre

Glad you got your mind straight

Even Libertarians are better than Centrists

@Advocatus Diaboli I didn't ask what you are, I asked WHO you are.

"There's nothing worse than being a centrist"

"I am very unasumed or unsurprised by these choices." - Fred Tesla

Дякую за непотрібне посилання

Тобто?

Mother anarchy loves her sons

I declare this channel and English colony, as punishment for pinging eveyrbody

No

@Advocatus Diaboli Do you like <#334412540467609610> channel to be nsfw?

Sure, why not

it is now

Ok, thanks

If anything ping me in #mod channel

Ok

Pic of the average communist

KEK

Classcuck, please

Absolutely **D I S G U S T I N G**

@Advocatus Diaboli Тебе модерку канала выдали? Можешь теперь устраивать БОЛЬШУЮ ЧИСТКУ?

@JohnyWoo Могу, в отдельно взятом канале, но только если праваки совсем обнаглеют

А пока не наглеют пусть мельтешат и мы с них поугараем, правильно

so what's going on in #russia_in_denial

What are you guys' opinions on this? https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/15/europe/russia-crimea-bridge-intl/index.html

I like how communists say Im the cuck yet they're willing to work for far less money and give disabled people the same amount. Lmao

Pretty hypocritical dont you think commies?

While I can gain my money measured by my productivity to the economy.

u mom gay

@Ethan There were a bridge to Crimea in USSR but it wasn't finished so it was damaged by ice drift and then deconstructed. After that they abandoned the project. Now I don't give a fuck about a victory of russian propaganda. Thats OK that they built that bridge so when communists will take power back in the region they won't have to build it themselves xd

@Mr. X It's funny when selfish marketfag believes that he will never become disabled or something until he actually becomes.
In socialist planned economy everyone earns by the amount of socially useful works he done, not at the behest of the market. So marketfag could be a very qualified specialist(labor aristocracy) that benefits from the market at this moment but it's not fact that he will benefit from it some time later, a porky or a retarded classcuck
Yeah, speculators, rentiers and other parasites are very productive to economy lol

No, I'll be benefitted the better I work. Simple as. And no I wont become disabled, Im not a communist.

Under socialism you are also benefited if you work better. But all products of your work will benefit you, not some porky parasite. Did you learn about socialism from Ayn Rands shitty fiction book?
Marketfaggotry is a mentlally disease like Stockholm Syndrome, it's much worse than being just disabled

Despite the fact that it hasnt failed and communism has many times. Surre. And no you're not benefitted since you wont get rich and benefit your family.

And would likely suffer poverty with a lot more people

Genius idea

"Not being a commiecuck is worse than being disabled"

No no no

Not being a commiecuck = disabled

No being a commiecuck = disabled

Im bored, gonna play skyrim and gta then sleep

Cya

If everyone has all they need and property stratification is minimal there are no really rich and poor. And if you just wanna be rich by parasiting on somebodys labor just kys fag

Bourgeois revolutions failed too

But capitalism was inevitable because it grew out of feudalism controversy

Just like as socialism is inevitable because it grow out of class controversy of capitalism

More like it grows out of selfish people who have no idea how money or economics work. Socialism and communism is honestly the most selfish ideology in history. It praises the killing and almost extermination of an entire segment of the population just because they have more money. @JohnyWoo why should I be okay with people killing other humans just because they have more money and the killers want more money without putting in the time and effort to gain that money?

@killsometime Wow, that's a great knowledge of how economics work. Thinking that killing people for money is the main principle of how communism works - why hadn't we seen this before? How had this even been working for 70 years, by the way, also giving the resources for rapid industrialization, victory over Nazis and post-war reconstruction?
You don't know what's communism or socialism. Communists don't want to kill capitalists. Engels was a son of rich factory owner. Many rich Russians were donating money to the Bolsheviks before 1917. What we do want is to get rid of social classes. We can't do it if private property isn't abolished. The thing is that most capitalists resist it, and they're pretty powerful. If we don't destroy them, they'll destroy us. White Russian terror was much, much more horrific that the Red one.
I doubt that anyone who uses arguments like 'communists want to kill people for money' will quit doing it anytime soon. Just go away, kid. GTFO. Dixi.

The reason the Soviet Union was able to defeat Nazis is because Hitler was a complete idiot in tactics and never mentioned his plans to the Japanese. Your post war reconstruction was facilitated in part by the US and the Marshall Plan which helped parts of the Soviet Union and most of Eastern Europe. The rapid industrialization was because of a massive displacement of people from the initial Nazi invasion along with US and British economic and resources aid.

Exactly how do you plan to take the private property and wealth of individuals who don’t want to give it away? The Soviet Union as nearly every other communist nation since then, simply make laws that legalize the killings of people who “conspire against the Revolution” or something similar along those lines and have the police do the dirty work that the common people wouldn’t.

Hitler created a mass party, installed a totalitarian dictatorship and managed to conquer most of continental Europe. Couldn't be done by an idiot. He just overestimated his forces.
Marshall Plan? I knew you're dumb. Not a single socialist country participated in the Marshall Plan. The USSR reconstructed itself and Eastern Europe using only its own industry and resources.
I was talking about 1930's industiralization, well before the Nazi invasion. The USSR became world's 2nd industrial power by 1937.

How do we abolish private property? Frankly I don't know. Ways to do it will be different in every country. Property of counter-revolutionaries could be taken immediately. We'd have the rest by abolishing right to inherit and so on.
>The Soviet Union as nearly every other communist nation since then, simply make laws that legalize the killings of people who “conspire against the Revolution” or something similar along those lines and have the police do the dirty work that the common people wouldn’t.
Same 'communists killed people for money' argument. Boring. How can one unironically believe that there were no conspiracies and everyone was loyal to the Revolution?

The reason why SU managed to defeat Hitler is because it had a superior economic system

And superior industry

That's simply all

^

It wasn’t because of economics. It was because of pure military strategy. Hitler was a complete moron in this yet he continued to force himself into every militant decision rather than listen to his experienced generals. He laid out unrealistic goals for his military and continuously changed the main objective between Leningrad, Moscow, and then Stalingrad. All while fighting along a massive front. This was all made worse because he never saw the Japanese as true allies due to them being racially inferior. Because of this, the Soviets were able to call in their reserves from the east who would’ve been distracted by Japanese forces if they would’ve coordinated together. Zhokov was stationed in the east before being sent west which means he would’ve definitely been dealing with the Japanese instead of the Germans.

It was Hitler and his stupidity that allowed the Soviets to win the war. The economic might you are claiming didn’t even take shape until after the tides of war changed against the Nazis

His supplies all were over extended because it completely relied on houses and man power. Trains were used to transport prisoners. Even though the final weeks of the Reich, trains were not used for military supplies

@killsometime Communists don't really want to kill someone, they just want to abolish the capitalist class economically. So former bourgs can become workers. And it's not because they just have more money, it's because they are parasites and production could be produced and redistributed in more efficient for all of the society way.

Just the idea you label any human as a parasite is enough to show your level of hatred for them. Dehumanizing people is always the first step in extermination. This has been proven in every massacre in history. The leadership of a people get the populace get the general public to see the target as sub human and not deserving at least the decency of being respected. Once they see the humanity of their enemies eliminated.... horrendous things occur.

How would you deal with the ones who don’t want to play along? The ones who are breaking the law of this communist state? Traditionally these individuals do not have long life expectancies. How would you explain for the mass executions and labor camps that are many communist nations are notorious for? Such as North Korea, Cuba, and USSR.

He is a parasite economically and can stop being such unlike subhuman etc
There are somebody who brakes the law in every country so it's not something unusual. USSR didn't have much more prisoners than USA for example. About executed - there was only 640k during all of the Stalins reign period. This number is including a lot of fascist henchmen during the WW2

I’m not debating the numbers. Im debating the reason for the numbers. Communist nations are very notorious for eliminating any other opinion and ideology that isn’t communist. Stalin’s purges are a prime example

Bourgeois revolutionaries did the same

And I’m not saying they didn’t do the same in other countries either. While not as common, they still do it from time to time. But there are people here saying the communist nations are immune from this while historically it’s just not the case. Communist nations are infamous for their purging of society to eliminate anyone who is deemed hostile or opposed to the in power regime.
@JohnyWoo

communism doesnt work you dumb motherfuckers

communism doesnt work you dumb motherfuckers

communism doesnt work you dumb motherfuckers

communism doesnt work you dumb motherfuckers

Don't spam pls @Deleted User

spam harder show us the fruits of capitalism 😩

@Deleted User

nice pic

that is the fruit of capitalism

so yes, very nice indeed

Communist: *detailed economic arguments*
Capitalist: Did you really just say "detailed economic arguments" instead of an actual argument?

Sure capitalism might seem bad but its the best system we've got

but communism killed a billion people

Muh gulags

Чому на неславянском наречии?

so this is what happens when i don't visit for a bit

i miss mr. e's silly antics

i wonder what that rascal will get up to next

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/432189995579604992/448196227012755496/DdpSt-IUwAEBphs.png

anprim gang

Ukraine is Russia

@mcstubbs It really shows why people miss me and not you.

And no its not Russia, jackass.

Ukraine is fake news

ukraine isn't part of russia because it doesn't exist

fuggin koolaks

Ukrainians are Russians in denial.

you ever hear of the "finland doesn't exist" meme?
well ukraine is that but real

Lel

Belgium isn't real

https://zapatopi.net/belgium/

the plot thickens

fishermen, slavs, and liberals are all conspiring to hide the existence of finland, ukraine, and belgium

@Nogals Get outta here you fascist big gay!

no he's on to something

@Deleted User I'm more of a anti-capitalist than you

@Nogals Yes, because a "merger of state and corporate power" is SO anti-capitalist, right? Gimme a break, Mussoliniboo.

@Deleted User go to gulag, you probably aren't even a tankie, you probably a anarchist cuck who believes gays and jews should be allowed to live

@Deleted User Stalin should of killed you

oh shit
it's an unironic nazbol

@Nogals I am a tankie, and I proudly support the right of gays and Jews to live.

what a cuck

>tankie
>jews and gays allowed to live
are you retarded?

tankie doesn't mean hideously bigoted

Are you? There's absolutely nothing contradictory about being ML and not being a genocidal, homophobic anti-semite. @Nogals

@Deleted User on the left is you

>opposing imperialism is bad

kill yourself kid

I support Syria obviously

the Jewish control in the middle east is a problem

I support assad but blaming "da jooz" for everything bad that happens is just stupid

in this case, it is

There you have it, folks. Yet another representative of the "master race" talking about Jewish overlords.

no im no representative

nor am I

how is it the fault of the jews that the middle east is fucked

do you even know about the greater israel? syria is the first and most important country for the jews

its here were the 2 main oil pipelines overlap

so you're going to blame zionist imperialism for the entire middle east's problems
okay

israel dominance in syria is catastrophic

You can't reason with cucks. They claim to be Ubermensch while also claiming to be under Jewish control.

lol you don't even care to look at what i have to say do you

pathetic waste of time this is

"we're so genetically superior that we keep getting enslaved by inferior races"

@DA GOMMIE JOO LEL

im not surperiour to nobody you dick

double negative

you're saying that you are superior

i haven't said that

@Nikola Tesla (Joshua) His IQ is also double negative.

DAMN

@Deleted User I'm not a nazi

haha with the insults now

I didn't claim to be superior

I am just anti-jew

and you are a cuck for being pro-gay

thats all

I’m superior to some people, but the number of people superior to me is so vast that the fact I’m superior to a small few doesn’t even matter <:bour:313709044957315082>

lol puts an ancap ball

northing about superior races

is this really how bad the left is at memeing

"you are a cuck for being pro-gay"
pretty sure that being gay is the opposite of getting cucked

truly utterly pathetic

Why did you need to strawman @Deleted User

I’m actually on the right, gg m8.

are you that insecure @Deleted User

it's no use this place @Nogals

they're lost for an eternity

:salt:

@Nogals I didn't. It's blatantly obvious that you consider yourself superior to Jews, hence why you believe they are unworthy of life. Go back to reading Evola and pleasuring your inchworm to hardcore tentacle porn.

listen up you

no one's surperior to nobody

no one said that ever

the right is pretty fucking pathetic tbh

"gays are degenerate!"
*posts gore and jerks off to tentacle porn*

And the left isn’t?

I don't post gore

the right is basically for people who arent in any way shape or form social

I don't jack off to tentacle porn

@DA GOMMIE JOO lmao

@Ｋ▲ＩＳＥＲ we're at least self-aware

and who werent raised properly

again strawman

so clever

>not social

>Adolf fucking Hitler

guys, you're assuming too much

none of us are skin heads or alt righters

I think I am superior to y'all because that makes me feel better about my failed social life

>any number of other fascist dictators too

@DeLeon is Nazbol lol

Peppy again, no one said that

I'm superior to you despite not having done anything good because you like dick and I don't

obviously

yea you guys aren't even trying to make a point now

I’m pretty sure those who aren’t social can’t lead a country, much less in a dictatorship.

Y'all have the left to thank for the fucking fact y'all have a minimum wage and fucking weekend

I don't dislike gays because I think Im superior to them