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2017-06-13 23:37:14 UTC

Okay, these are wage charts

2017-06-13 23:37:17 UTC

What do those have anything to do

2017-06-13 23:37:21 UTC

Or am I thinking of something else?

2017-06-13 23:37:28 UTC

The CEO makes more than the worker. Is that a surprise to you?

I explained them earlier

Reagan's bitched wanted to see them because he was too lazy to scroll up

Bitch*

no, not surprising but it is stupid if they do none of the work

they're basically parasites

2017-06-13 23:38:05 UTC

Ceos are in charge of insuring that the company is successful. Workers make up a small part of that, and so they receive less pay, and rightfully so.

2017-06-13 23:38:11 UTC

The guy who started it all, made the jobs, expanded the company, actively manages all it's operations, and he isn't allowed to make a lot more than a worker who was employed by him to do simple work?

Businesses are dictatorships

2017-06-13 23:38:19 UTC

Exactly

2017-06-13 23:38:21 UTC

CEOs build capital, and expand the economy

2017-06-13 23:38:23 UTC

They take the risk

2017-06-13 23:38:27 UTC

They reap the reward

Without the workers none of that could happen

they plunder it from employees

Without the workers there would be no cars, no roads, no factories, no shops, no consumers

Nothing

2017-06-13 23:38:51 UTC

Without the ceo's direction and ingenuity, it could not happen

its like lords taxing serfs' grain harvest

2017-06-13 23:38:56 UTC

Workers are like tools

Actually it could

2017-06-13 23:39:03 UTC

The workers are employed

2017-06-13 23:39:08 UTC

Without the employers, the workers wouldn't be there

And you say you have hE moral high ground?

"Workers are like tools"

2017-06-13 23:39:19 UTC

The workers weren't fallen angels from the sky who built everything cuz they loved the work

2017-06-13 23:39:20 UTC

They can be used

2017-06-13 23:39:22 UTC

world*

without the workers, nothing would get done

Romney get out Jesus Christ

2017-06-13 23:39:32 UTC

But it requires someone with the skill to use them

also coops exist and they have no ceos

Holy shit you're literally proving exploitation single handedly

2017-06-13 23:39:59 UTC

Exploitation is just a part of life

2017-06-13 23:40:01 UTC

Proving exploitation?

There's a few coops around the world they do just fine

2017-06-13 23:40:11 UTC

Just as communist dictators exploit the population

2017-06-13 23:40:14 UTC

For power

He's advocating for literal exploitation, he's calling workers tools that can be used

2017-06-13 23:40:22 UTC

They are

2017-06-13 23:40:24 UTC

Without management and resources the workers cannot work. Coops can't meet the needs of anything larger than a small community

Hey kid guess what we're anarchists

we're not totalitarians m8

we're syndicalists

That's why I'm syndicalist

For large scale organization

2017-06-13 23:40:51 UTC

Ace, that's the stone-cold truth. Workers are hired to perform tasks that are needed and compensated for by their employers.

But you don't need a dictator to tell you what to do

we want a bottom-up democracy

2017-06-13 23:40:59 UTC

But they should have the chance to move up.

Apply your governmental principles to the economy

Well of course you can if you work hard but you can't be filthy rich to the point where you're hoarding all the wealth

2017-06-13 23:41:30 UTC

Everyone should have a chance to move up. But if they can't, than that is their fault and it can not be placed at the feet of the CEO.

Like this

employers need workers to exploit, the work they do in organizing a business is minimal in comparison

2017-06-13 23:41:50 UTC

It's funny because you're describing it like it's merely just hoarding the wealth and not taking it back into the economy

2017-06-13 23:41:53 UTC

But they come up with the idea

2017-06-13 23:41:59 UTC

They build into a niche market

2017-06-13 23:42:02 UTC

They devolop

It's not putting it back into the economy though

good, now come up with another one

2017-06-13 23:42:04 UTC

They innovate

2017-06-13 23:42:10 UTC

They push humanity forward

Worker pay hasn't gone up for shit

2017-06-13 23:42:14 UTC

When the only way that wealth was even made was by expanding the economy and creating jobs, supporting families, and offering products are low prices.

most people who innovate don't do if for massive cash

2017-06-13 23:42:42 UTC

Most jobs moved overseas.

2017-06-13 23:42:48 UTC

Thanks to Bill Clinton.

because of lax labour laws

2017-06-13 23:42:51 UTC

And NAFTA

2017-06-13 23:42:56 UTC

No

Actually those statistics are taken before and after Reagan

So thank him for that

all trade agreements suck

2017-06-13 23:43:04 UTC

Because of free trade

2017-06-13 23:43:09 UTC

I do

2017-06-13 23:43:15 UTC

I know

You're thanking him for the shit worker pay?

2017-06-13 23:43:29 UTC

Yep

free trade without self-managed workplaces is shitty

2017-06-13 23:43:43 UTC

It encourages people to try and move up

2017-06-13 23:43:47 UTC

Do you support the $15 minimum wage movement?

2017-06-13 23:43:49 UTC

Tell me that.

2017-06-13 23:43:50 UTC

Don't hand things to people

Self managed workplaces wouldn't ship jobs overseas

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