Message from @kropotkin クロポトキン

Discord ID: 324332514208645130


2017-06-13 23:40:03 UTC  

There's a few coops around the world they do just fine

2017-06-13 23:40:11 UTC  

Just as communist dictators exploit the population

2017-06-13 23:40:14 UTC  

For power

2017-06-13 23:40:15 UTC  

He's advocating for literal exploitation, he's calling workers tools that can be used

2017-06-13 23:40:22 UTC  

They are

2017-06-13 23:40:24 UTC  

Without management and resources the workers cannot work. Coops can't meet the needs of anything larger than a small community

2017-06-13 23:40:25 UTC  

Hey kid guess what we're anarchists

2017-06-13 23:40:26 UTC  

we're not totalitarians m8

2017-06-13 23:40:32 UTC  

we're syndicalists

2017-06-13 23:40:35 UTC  

That's why I'm syndicalist

2017-06-13 23:40:41 UTC  

For large scale organization

2017-06-13 23:40:51 UTC  

Ace, that's the stone-cold truth. Workers are hired to perform tasks that are needed and compensated for by their employers.

2017-06-13 23:40:52 UTC  

But you don't need a dictator to tell you what to do

2017-06-13 23:40:52 UTC  

we want a bottom-up democracy

2017-06-13 23:40:59 UTC  

But they should have the chance to move up.

2017-06-13 23:41:03 UTC  

Apply your governmental principles to the economy

2017-06-13 23:41:25 UTC  

Well of course you can if you work hard but you can't be filthy rich to the point where you're hoarding all the wealth

2017-06-13 23:41:30 UTC  

Everyone should have a chance to move up. But if they can't, than that is their fault and it can not be placed at the feet of the CEO.

2017-06-13 23:41:31 UTC  

Like this

2017-06-13 23:41:34 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308995540782284817/324332500186824706/image.png

2017-06-13 23:41:37 UTC  

employers need workers to exploit, the work they do in organizing a business is minimal in comparison

2017-06-13 23:41:47 UTC  

^

2017-06-13 23:41:50 UTC  

It's funny because you're describing it like it's merely just hoarding the wealth and not taking it back into the economy

2017-06-13 23:41:53 UTC  

But they come up with the idea

2017-06-13 23:41:59 UTC  

They build into a niche market

2017-06-13 23:42:02 UTC  

They devolop

2017-06-13 23:42:03 UTC  

It's not putting it back into the economy though

2017-06-13 23:42:04 UTC  

good, now come up with another one

2017-06-13 23:42:04 UTC  

They innovate

2017-06-13 23:42:07 UTC  

Look

2017-06-13 23:42:07 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308995540782284817/324332639618334722/image.png

2017-06-13 23:42:10 UTC  

They push humanity forward

2017-06-13 23:42:12 UTC  

Worker pay hasn't gone up for shit

2017-06-13 23:42:14 UTC  

When the only way that wealth was even made was by expanding the economy and creating jobs, supporting families, and offering products are low prices.

2017-06-13 23:42:22 UTC  

most people who innovate don't do if for massive cash

2017-06-13 23:42:42 UTC  

Most jobs moved overseas.

2017-06-13 23:42:48 UTC  

Thanks to Bill Clinton.

2017-06-13 23:42:50 UTC  

because of lax labour laws

2017-06-13 23:42:51 UTC  

And NAFTA

2017-06-13 23:42:56 UTC  

No

2017-06-13 23:42:59 UTC  

Actually those statistics are taken before and after Reagan