Except that Eccumenial Councils determine what is heresy or not

By ''giving the finger'' to infallibility you open the path to relativism

no

You may agree with what I said

btu what about someone else?

He gave the finger to the claim that the pope stands for christ on this earth

ie. the literal 'vicar of christ'

He is a man

And the popes decrees are not infallible

And then you get the logical inconsistancy of one pope saying something supposedly infallible

and then another pope saying something different

I agree on papal infallibility being wrong

And then you have popes that we full on perverts and drunks

but the thing is you're trading what is a tool to stamp out heresy with the chance for heresies to grow

And others who lusted after power and greed

stop talking about popes, we're talking about the idea of interperation infallibility

And then others who were controlled by whoever was controlling Italy at the time

along witht he holy roman empire

yeah, anyway

We both don't like the pope

except protestants don't have infallibility of scripture

This is the thing man

no wait

scripture interperation

yeah, that

In scripture itself, Paul writes warning the early church of false teachers

and false prophets, yeah

The thing is, there has always and will always be those people

The impetus and responsibltiy is upon members of the church and church leaders to call those people out for what they are

hacks and fakes

out to scam people's money

Problem is with such a system you get heresies easily

or simply lead them away from the truth

because church leaders will disagree with each other unless you have robust doctrine

Not if you have Church elders who are switched on

And the church leaders/pastor has a doctrinal statement

Which pretty much every church has

im not talking about crappy churches though

Like massive mega churches that are more like music concerts

And a hip vibe

what I don't like about protestantism they also took Tradition out

And appealing to christian consumerism.. of coffee mug feel good crap

That is a problem I see man

I think it sucks

but I have to go now

Tradition is actually pretty awesome in a lot of ways

But it went back to a simpler sort of worship

Plain churches and whatnot

Anyways, good convo bro

right

You want plain though

Look at Puritan churches

They were on a whole other level

Like literally a hall

With no pictures

a single cross

and a pulpit

my nigga saddam

gone but not forgotten

I love saddam

ISLAM

saddam hussein was muslim

this other fag is an apostate

Saddam was a bastard, but I agree the West toppling him was a mistake

I want to kill you

^

Love you too, babe

I want to throw your fucking skull onto a pile of barbes wire until your entrails are ripped out of your fucking mouth you scum

Do I have a safe word?

wow a real pirate

arr matey

yes

the safe word is

But yeah

All hand hoay!

"there is no god but allah, and muhammad is his messanger"

thats the safe word

When we killed Saddam and Gaddafi extrajudicially instead of trying them in an international tribune, it just opened the power vacuum for forces like ISIS to fill up

ISIS will die eventually

Back then they were irrelevant and small, but Western intervention has exacerbated their growth

like they died in Iraq

your entire family will die inshallah

and will burn in jahannam forever

people lke you will have no influence if we put more anti terror money into developing poverty

Tengri is supreme god

Allah is a sub par god meant to reach Tengri

I encourage you on your path to seek Tengri

friend

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@Firefly#9983 Are you the server owner?

Duterte

firefly

can I become a mod

@Rodrigo#3130 Nobody knows who is. But I can pass your word. What you need?

can you ask server owner if I can be mod

Ah, I just had some new emojis for this server

@Rodrigo#3130 post them here

Notice you didn't even have a Max Stirner one

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