Message from @swampy_maroon

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2017-06-07 16:04:03 UTC  

Papal infallibility was the replacement of Eccumenial Councils

2017-06-07 16:04:16 UTC  

You haven't said anything that the protestants disagree with

2017-06-07 16:04:29 UTC  

Except that Eccumenial Councils determine what is heresy or not

2017-06-07 16:05:12 UTC  

By ''giving the finger'' to infallibility you open the path to relativism

2017-06-07 16:05:18 UTC  

no

2017-06-07 16:05:20 UTC  

You may agree with what I said

2017-06-07 16:05:25 UTC  

btu what about someone else?

2017-06-07 16:05:33 UTC  

He gave the finger to the claim that the pope stands for christ on this earth

2017-06-07 16:05:40 UTC  

ie. the literal 'vicar of christ'

2017-06-07 16:05:47 UTC  

He is a man

2017-06-07 16:05:56 UTC  

And the popes decrees are not infallible

2017-06-07 16:06:18 UTC  

And then you get the logical inconsistancy of one pope saying something supposedly infallible

2017-06-07 16:06:28 UTC  

and then another pope saying something different

2017-06-07 16:06:31 UTC  

I agree on papal infallibility being wrong

2017-06-07 16:06:50 UTC  

And then you have popes that we full on perverts and drunks

2017-06-07 16:06:55 UTC  

but the thing is you're trading what is a tool to stamp out heresy with the chance for heresies to grow

2017-06-07 16:07:02 UTC  

And others who lusted after power and greed

2017-06-07 16:07:12 UTC  

stop talking about popes, we're talking about the idea of interperation infallibility

2017-06-07 16:07:16 UTC  

And then others who were controlled by whoever was controlling Italy at the time

2017-06-07 16:07:22 UTC  

along witht he holy roman empire

2017-06-07 16:07:30 UTC  

yeah, anyway

2017-06-07 16:07:38 UTC  

We both don't like the pope

2017-06-07 16:07:58 UTC  

except protestants don't have infallibility of scripture

2017-06-07 16:08:01 UTC  

This is the thing man

2017-06-07 16:08:07 UTC  

no wait

2017-06-07 16:08:10 UTC  

scripture interperation

2017-06-07 16:08:15 UTC  

yeah, that

2017-06-07 16:08:30 UTC  

In scripture itself, Paul writes warning the early church of false teachers

2017-06-07 16:08:43 UTC  

and false prophets, yeah

2017-06-07 16:08:50 UTC  

The thing is, there has always and will always be those people

2017-06-07 16:09:10 UTC  

The impetus and responsibltiy is upon members of the church and church leaders to call those people out for what they are

2017-06-07 16:09:25 UTC  

hacks and fakes

2017-06-07 16:09:30 UTC  

out to scam people's money

2017-06-07 16:09:41 UTC  

Problem is with such a system you get heresies easily

2017-06-07 16:09:41 UTC  

or simply lead them away from the truth

2017-06-07 16:09:53 UTC  

because church leaders will disagree with each other unless you have robust doctrine

2017-06-07 16:10:03 UTC  

Not if you have Church elders who are switched on

2017-06-07 16:10:20 UTC  

And the church leaders/pastor has a doctrinal statement

2017-06-07 16:10:27 UTC  

Which pretty much every church has

2017-06-07 16:10:38 UTC  

im not talking about crappy churches though

2017-06-07 16:10:49 UTC  

Like massive mega churches that are more like music concerts