And then others who were controlled by whoever was controlling Italy at the time

along witht he holy roman empire

yeah, anyway

We both don't like the pope

except protestants don't have infallibility of scripture

This is the thing man

no wait

scripture interperation

yeah, that

In scripture itself, Paul writes warning the early church of false teachers

and false prophets, yeah

The thing is, there has always and will always be those people

The impetus and responsibltiy is upon members of the church and church leaders to call those people out for what they are

hacks and fakes

out to scam people's money

Problem is with such a system you get heresies easily

or simply lead them away from the truth

because church leaders will disagree with each other unless you have robust doctrine

Not if you have Church elders who are switched on

And the church leaders/pastor has a doctrinal statement

Which pretty much every church has

im not talking about crappy churches though

Like massive mega churches that are more like music concerts

And a hip vibe

what I don't like about protestantism they also took Tradition out

And appealing to christian consumerism.. of coffee mug feel good crap

That is a problem I see man

I think it sucks

but I have to go now

Tradition is actually pretty awesome in a lot of ways

But it went back to a simpler sort of worship

Plain churches and whatnot

Anyways, good convo bro

right

You want plain though

Look at Puritan churches

They were on a whole other level

Like literally a hall

With no pictures

a single cross

and a pulpit