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2018-03-09 22:44:12 UTC

The essentially forced the anarchists out of government, it didn't put them at odds with the republic. There wouldn't be a reason to oppose the republic until after the war

2018-03-09 22:44:22 UTC

Sources you won't let me cite

2018-03-09 22:44:26 UTC

So you don't know

2018-03-09 22:44:36 UTC

anyway, it's been proven that the anarchists didn't have weapons and that's why falange crushed them.
as i tried to point out to rex the ENTIRE TIME.
my case rests now.
really stressed

2018-03-09 22:44:40 UTC

A dual governance model existed

2018-03-09 22:44:44 UTC

And yes

2018-03-09 22:44:55 UTC

The fascists got overwhelming support from the Nazis in Germany

2018-03-09 22:44:58 UTC

And mussolini

2018-03-09 22:45:12 UTC

And it still took them years to win

2018-03-09 22:45:27 UTC

Against an unfunded, untrained, horizontal force or militias

2018-03-09 22:45:30 UTC

And general people

2018-03-09 22:45:42 UTC

lol

2018-03-09 22:45:45 UTC

So why would anarchists not support Republicans in the face of a greater reaction?

2018-03-09 22:45:58 UTC

They did, hence not overthrowing the republic

2018-03-09 22:46:06 UTC

Which is arguably one of the lessons to be learned from the civil war

2018-03-09 22:46:11 UTC

@alines Not really.

2018-03-09 22:46:13 UTC

It's a question that lingers

2018-03-09 22:46:23 UTC

Should they have waited,

2018-03-09 22:46:31 UTC

Or should they have used the fervor to go all the way

2018-03-09 22:46:31 UTC

@alines The only thing you have proven is that you can autistically screech.

2018-03-09 22:46:52 UTC

Except again. Sources you won't let me cite

2018-03-09 22:47:00 UTC

And that foreign policy article

2018-03-09 22:47:07 UTC

This is very simple info to find

2018-03-09 22:47:07 UTC

Like

2018-03-09 22:47:21 UTC

You call me lazy but are arguing from an entirely anecdotal position

2018-03-09 22:47:29 UTC

And not letting me give you anything lol

2018-03-09 22:47:55 UTC

You can upload sources but I won't read them personally atm not interested. I actually believe you on the topic.

2018-03-09 22:48:04 UTC

Ok well then sure

2018-03-09 22:48:14 UTC

Cause he's I'm not making this up

2018-03-09 22:48:21 UTC

I think the anarchists definitely made mistakes

2018-03-09 22:48:31 UTC

Primarily that they didnt go full on with the revolution

2018-03-09 22:48:42 UTC

@Deleted User **prove they weren't disarmed, motherfucker**
killmonger and i have provided sources saying they were deprived by the republican govt.
put up or shut up

2018-03-09 22:48:59 UTC

I also think that they shouldve squashed the marxists

2018-03-09 22:49:05 UTC

Before they became a large problem

2018-03-09 22:49:10 UTC

@alines You provided one source, that was from a bunch of commies on a blog.

2018-03-09 22:49:24 UTC

Well the marxists literally killed and chased out

2018-03-09 22:49:31 UTC

Anarchists and Trotskyist

2018-03-09 22:49:47 UTC

Effectively ousting them from the country

2018-03-09 22:49:51 UTC

Based on party lines

2018-03-09 22:49:53 UTC

@Comrade Skeltal To be fair, the union would have collapsed if stalin hadn't done that.

2018-03-09 22:50:06 UTC

What're you talking about

2018-03-09 22:50:08 UTC

I think you should of cooperate with Marxists against the Fascism.

2018-03-09 22:50:18 UTC

@Comrade Skeltal You are mentioning the purges, correct?

2018-03-09 22:50:19 UTC

The marxists weren't there to cooperate fire

2018-03-09 22:50:27 UTC

I'm talking about Spain

2018-03-09 22:50:35 UTC

We are always there to cooperate.

2018-03-09 22:50:39 UTC

@Comrade Skeltal Wait what? Trotskyists in spain?

2018-03-09 22:50:47 UTC

Yes the militias were split up

2018-03-09 22:50:50 UTC

Based on party line

2018-03-09 22:50:50 UTC

This is our think. Cooperation.

2018-03-09 22:51:00 UTC

Fire

2018-03-09 22:51:06 UTC

The marxists in Spain

2018-03-09 22:51:13 UTC

Were there to service the foreign policy of the USSR

2018-03-09 22:51:13 UTC

@Firefly#9983 They did cooperate however, and they still got annihilated.

2018-03-09 22:51:19 UTC

And prevent a radical revolution in Spain

2018-03-09 22:51:24 UTC

They werent present to work with anarchists

2018-03-09 22:51:32 UTC

Hence why they ousted them from government

2018-03-09 22:51:39 UTC

And shot them and chased them out of the country

2018-03-09 22:51:44 UTC

As the war was coming to a close

2018-03-09 22:52:10 UTC

They were explicitly against certain strains of communism

2018-03-09 22:52:30 UTC

And were trying to prevent a situation in which the western powers would fail to ally with them

2018-03-09 22:52:33 UTC

Against Germany

2018-03-09 22:52:37 UTC

In the coming war

2018-03-09 22:52:57 UTC

At that point, what happened really didn't matter in spain, because at that point, the soviet union was starting to pull out, leadership was collapsing, and so was the military, it was natural at that point, that the communists would have turned on each other for their differences in their beliefs.

2018-03-09 22:53:26 UTC

But it had been happening, hence the conditional support in aid

2018-03-09 22:54:02 UTC

People were finding our marxists security forces miles behind the front lines were more armed than the actual troops fighting the war

2018-03-09 22:54:03 UTC

What?

2018-03-09 22:54:06 UTC

I think anarchists had much less power and resources. They had to submit to Marxists at that point because they had no opportunity by themselves. In a different situation I would agree they could fight for their cause. But in this situation submission and cooperative agreement with other progressive forces would be more beneficial for everyone. Instead they fought Republican and Marxists and failed catastrophically all together as losers.

2018-03-09 22:54:21 UTC

They were this armed, explicitly as a means to reverse anarchist actions

2018-03-09 22:54:23 UTC

And take their arms

2018-03-09 22:54:41 UTC

It was only later they started shooting everyone as the war was clearly lost

2018-03-09 22:55:09 UTC

And notice "the communists" weren't turning on eachother

2018-03-09 22:55:19 UTC

The marxists were purging radical popular ideologies

2018-03-09 22:55:21 UTC

@Firefly#9983 They would have lost decisively if they still did cooperate, afterall, they did cooperate in the first months of the civil war, but were still beaten time and time again by franco and the falange.

2018-03-09 22:55:40 UTC

They werent beaten time and time again by Franco, it took years.

2018-03-09 22:55:49 UTC

@Comrade Skeltal Is that to say that communism from the soviet union WASN'T radical?

2018-03-09 22:55:51 UTC

And partiality on behalf of the embarking powers

2018-03-09 22:55:57 UTC

@Deleted User They did provide some resistance.

2018-03-09 22:55:58 UTC

In spain, no

2018-03-09 22:56:00 UTC

It wasn't radical

2018-03-09 22:56:05 UTC

@Firefly#9983 Some, sure.

2018-03-09 22:56:11 UTC

They literally reverse anarchist collectivization

2018-03-09 22:56:13 UTC

@Comrade Skeltal What do you mean?

2018-03-09 22:56:20 UTC

I'm not talking about Russia at all

2018-03-09 22:56:29 UTC

Even though in Russia they did the same thing

2018-03-09 22:56:38 UTC

There was a period of counter-revolutionary action

2018-03-09 22:56:48 UTC

On behalf of the marxists in Spain

2018-03-09 22:56:48 UTC

What?

2018-03-09 22:56:52 UTC

Doing things like passing laws

2018-03-09 22:57:00 UTC

Marxist communists sure as hell are radical.

2018-03-09 22:57:02 UTC

That limited and reversed past actions of collectivization

2018-03-09 22:57:09 UTC

Rex, hush for one moment.

2018-03-09 22:57:16 UTC

Hell no, I won't.

2018-03-09 22:57:23 UTC

You're not listening and arguing something entirely besides the point

2018-03-09 22:57:41 UTC

Nobody cares about what you think of the marxists, I'm arguing actions in spain.

2018-03-09 22:58:05 UTC

@Comrade Skeltal I am arguing because I do not agree with what you are saying, I do not give a damn whether or not you care about it.

2018-03-09 22:58:28 UTC

You're being stupid, This isnt something to "agree" Or "not" agree with.

2018-03-09 22:58:36 UTC

I'm arguing the policies they enacted

2018-03-09 22:58:37 UTC

@Comrade Skeltal Yes, it is.

2018-03-09 22:58:42 UTC

No, no it isnt

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