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The essentially forced the anarchists out of government, it didn't put them at odds with the republic. There wouldn't be a reason to oppose the republic until after the war
Sources you won't let me cite
So you don't know
anyway, it's been proven that the anarchists didn't have weapons and that's why falange crushed them.
as i tried to point out to rex the ENTIRE TIME.
my case rests now.
really stressed
A dual governance model existed
And yes
The fascists got overwhelming support from the Nazis in Germany
And mussolini
And it still took them years to win
Against an unfunded, untrained, horizontal force or militias
And general people
lol
So why would anarchists not support Republicans in the face of a greater reaction?
They did, hence not overthrowing the republic
Which is arguably one of the lessons to be learned from the civil war
@alines Not really.
It's a question that lingers
Should they have waited,
Or should they have used the fervor to go all the way
@alines The only thing you have proven is that you can autistically screech.
Except again. Sources you won't let me cite
And that foreign policy article
This is very simple info to find
Like
You call me lazy but are arguing from an entirely anecdotal position
And not letting me give you anything lol
You can upload sources but I won't read them personally atm not interested. I actually believe you on the topic.
Ok well then sure
Cause he's I'm not making this up
I think the anarchists definitely made mistakes
Primarily that they didnt go full on with the revolution
@Deleted User **prove they weren't disarmed, motherfucker**
killmonger and i have provided sources saying they were deprived by the republican govt.
put up or shut up
I also think that they shouldve squashed the marxists
Before they became a large problem
@alines You provided one source, that was from a bunch of commies on a blog.
Well the marxists literally killed and chased out
Anarchists and Trotskyist
Effectively ousting them from the country
Based on party lines
@Comrade Skeltal To be fair, the union would have collapsed if stalin hadn't done that.
What're you talking about
I think you should of cooperate with Marxists against the Fascism.
@Comrade Skeltal You are mentioning the purges, correct?
The marxists weren't there to cooperate fire
I'm talking about Spain
We are always there to cooperate.
@Comrade Skeltal Wait what? Trotskyists in spain?
Yes the militias were split up
Based on party line
This is our think. Cooperation.
Fire
The marxists in Spain
Were there to service the foreign policy of the USSR
@Firefly#9983 They did cooperate however, and they still got annihilated.
And prevent a radical revolution in Spain
They werent present to work with anarchists
Hence why they ousted them from government
And shot them and chased them out of the country
As the war was coming to a close
They were explicitly against certain strains of communism
And were trying to prevent a situation in which the western powers would fail to ally with them
Against Germany
In the coming war
At that point, what happened really didn't matter in spain, because at that point, the soviet union was starting to pull out, leadership was collapsing, and so was the military, it was natural at that point, that the communists would have turned on each other for their differences in their beliefs.
But it had been happening, hence the conditional support in aid
People were finding our marxists security forces miles behind the front lines were more armed than the actual troops fighting the war
What?
I think anarchists had much less power and resources. They had to submit to Marxists at that point because they had no opportunity by themselves. In a different situation I would agree they could fight for their cause. But in this situation submission and cooperative agreement with other progressive forces would be more beneficial for everyone. Instead they fought Republican and Marxists and failed catastrophically all together as losers.
They were this armed, explicitly as a means to reverse anarchist actions
And take their arms
It was only later they started shooting everyone as the war was clearly lost
And notice "the communists" weren't turning on eachother
The marxists were purging radical popular ideologies
@Firefly#9983 They would have lost decisively if they still did cooperate, afterall, they did cooperate in the first months of the civil war, but were still beaten time and time again by franco and the falange.
They werent beaten time and time again by Franco, it took years.
@Comrade Skeltal Is that to say that communism from the soviet union WASN'T radical?
And partiality on behalf of the embarking powers
@Deleted User They did provide some resistance.
In spain, no
It wasn't radical
@Firefly#9983 Some, sure.
They literally reverse anarchist collectivization
@Comrade Skeltal What do you mean?
I'm not talking about Russia at all
Even though in Russia they did the same thing
There was a period of counter-revolutionary action
On behalf of the marxists in Spain
What?
Doing things like passing laws
Marxist communists sure as hell are radical.
That limited and reversed past actions of collectivization
Rex, hush for one moment.
Hell no, I won't.
You're not listening and arguing something entirely besides the point
Nobody cares about what you think of the marxists, I'm arguing actions in spain.
@Comrade Skeltal I am arguing because I do not agree with what you are saying, I do not give a damn whether or not you care about it.
You're being stupid, This isnt something to "agree" Or "not" agree with.
I'm arguing the policies they enacted
@Comrade Skeltal Yes, it is.
No, no it isnt
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