Auchwitz™ football team

wow such a spooky camp

Jewish population in 1933

@Deleted User Can you explain why so few nazis testified against them?

@Donitz Is it me, or did you completely ditch your argument with roberto?

@LOAVE#1706 Oh, they didn't coerce any confessions or anything(!)

Soviets tortured the bastards into giving false confessions/testimonies

@Deleted User Lmao already adressed the second and you just said >Objective evidence is jewzzz propganda

Jewish population in 1948

@LOAVE#1706 Pick a non-jewish site

A site that's neither jewish or nazi

That's what we call INDEPENDENT sources

@Deleted User It doesn't matter the evidence in the website isn't ancedotal so you could find it somewhere else

@Deleted User He is going to give you a grand slam with a buzzfeed article.

@Deleted User Prove me wrong

@LOAVE#1706 What if I showed you something from Stormfront?

That'd be biased right?

I'm showing you independent website

@Deleted User I'd adress it if it was an actual arguement

@Deleted User He is two faced in that regard.

Alright I'll give you an argument and you address that argument

Alright? Here I go

If the Holocaust happened, why is it illegal to question in so many countries, yet you can question other genocides?

Here are all the countries where it's illegal to question the Holocaust

Yet you can question all other genocides

@Deleted User You can't question the Holodomor in Russia Ukraine or Poland WRONG!

Yes you can

Prove to me that you can't

@LOAVE#1706

Russia fucking denies it

So how could it be illegal to question it there?

@Donitz To be fair, it did actually start as a crop famine.

Russia doesn't deny the actual famine

But they deny that its a gencoide

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial_of_the_Holodomor

Russia denies the genocide lmao

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor_genocide_question#Russian_government_position

@Deleted User It could very well have been called as a genocide, because knowing stalin, he took what little the people had and left them in the dust.

@Deleted User "You can't question any other genocides anywhere" (While Holdomor denial is illegal)

@LOAVE#1706 >It's illegal to question a genocide in a country that denies the genocide

You aren't even addressing the argument

Why is it illegal to question the Holocaust in those countries if it happened?

@Deleted User Keep cherry picking evidence my good nazbol

How is it cherrypicking

You're not even addressing the original argument

If it happened then why is it illegal to question it

@Deleted User I can smell the sweat, cheeto dust, and jizz in @Donitz's house from herem

lol rekt

@Deleted UserLmao I've already adressed your simplistic pathetic argument

You haven't

Why is it illegal to question the holocaust in so many countries if it happened?

@Deleted User Ok you just can't or won't get it I understand

You're baiting at this point

I have dismantled all of your arguments

To the point where you refuse to address mine

@Deleted User He tells himself over and over again that he has won, when in reality, he has done nothing.

"The Holocaust happened because this one Jewish site said it did BTFO Nazis!"

@Deleted User Lmao you're a nazbol who denies the Holocaust how can I take anything you say seriously?

@Donitz Do you have any serious real life issues?

@LOAVE#1706 You're right, autistic people can't really take much seriously

Are you a loser? Do you not have any friends who value you?

His MLP plushies value him

@Cam Hah!

rekt

Did tyrone say he was going to the grocery store but he never came back?

A fascist, a natsoc and a Stalinist are sitting here making arguments as to why the Holocaust was a hoax to a fucking commie.
This is the most odd evening I've had in a while

Because the Holocaust is seen as Soviet propaganda by those who deny it.

@Deleted User I bet you think klling jews is a good thing?

Yes

@Donitz Yep.

<:troll_king:312064227542040576>

I say firing squad if they don't get the fuck out

@LOAVE#1706 No I bElIeVe In ThE hOlOcAuSt

@Deleted User He spent so long writing that out, but could only send that, he must be really ANGRY.

***ANGERY***

He's just sitting there crying so hard the only thing he can type are small sentences telling us how anti-semitic we are

Yep.

"Mu-mu-muh 6 gorillion!"

@Deleted User I've already adressed your terrible evidence be gone now

Bait

@Donitz There is a repeat of what I was saying earlier.

@Deleted User B-but if you thought it was bait why did you reply?

Because its bait

I honest-to-god thought Loave would have replied with the Holocaust Wikipedia article

But no he replied with, somehow, worse evidence

@Deleted User Find a single mainstream academic that thinks the Holocaust happend I'm waiting

"Find a single mainstream academic that thinks the Holocaust happend I'm waiting"
*thinks the Holocaust happend*

Mate, we're arguing that it didn't

You twat

He doesn't even know what side anyone's on

@Cam >Spelling error is your argument

@LOAVE#1706 You still haven't found any unbiased sources saying it happened

No, I'm taking the piss out of you

I am not trying to have a serious discussion here I'm just observing and poking fun

@Cam Good so we will ignore your argument now

Roberto and Rex are having a serious discussion, I'm just here to observe and to take the piss

You're doing hte 2nd one @LOAVE#1706

***L***

LOAVE - Today at 7:10 PM
@Deleted User Lmao you're a nazbol who denies the Holocaust how can I take anything you say seriously?

Why is Loave a commie, anyway? They have no style. Nazis had style. Armbands and Hugo Boss it was fucking beautiful.

Mercedes Benz and Volkwagen too

Fancy shit

Isn't volkswagen in a controversy over faulty filters?

At the time fancy shit

Volkswagen is known for chavvy golfs now.
But Mercedes Benz and BMW is still fancy shit

Nazi Germany was the first Iraq. The US came along and "liberated" it and the country went to shit.

MFW when not a single unbiased academic takes your denier argument seriously

^Picture of the average citizen under a communist regime

@Cam Not an argument about the Holocaust

Did he not just say

He's not arguing

As I said, I'm here to have fun you dumb prat

He's just shitposting

Loave is getting really angry

Maybe we should *loave* him alone

(Ba dum tss)

@Deleted User Don't you have school tomrrow or something?

@Donitz Do you not have a life?

How is Rex involved at this moment?

@LOAVE#1706 want to learn about something that would actually benefit society?

@Deleted User >Says he wants to have an argument based around objective evidence,starts using ad hominem arguments

@Deleted User Holocaust deniers its over

Here, read some of this and stop being a twat

@Cam Literally nothing to do with the Holocaust

Because we've moved on from that. Read it, you might like it. I did

>Inb4 reaction to any counterargument https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFZTAm2Jxq0

You gonna read the thing or you just gonna sperg at everything I say?

@Cam Is that the essay you wrote for your teacher in world government that got you suspended?

Nah mate, a friend sent it to me.

Never took a politics class, actually. Not really a popular choice in Britain

Also, I love how I don't respond after 5 minutes so you ping me a second time.

Batko the Manarchist is a complete idiot

Who?

Anyone else notice this actor from Man In The High Castle looks identical to Tito?

eww tito

Muh Market Socialism

@Deleted User Do you think the Holodmor happend?

@Donitz Meh.

There is a lot of confusion, unknowing, and lies around it.

My view on it, is that it started as a crop famine, and due to stalin being stalin, he made the situation 10X worse than actually fixxing it, plus he had a disliking for the ukranian anarchists.

@Deleted User So why do you think Communism is worse that Natsoc if the Holodmor wasn't deliberate?

Does a crop famine and an internment camp determine every part of two beliefs?

@Deleted User You claimed a big problem with Communism is that it leads to many people dying ,and as far as I know you that is all you have said is wrong with Communism.

@Donitz Did I associatr every death for communism with the crop famine?

@Deleted User Did you?

Oh my fucking god.......
No, obviously not.

@Deleted User Where in the Communist manifesto does it advocate for violence ?

>Trumps been president for almost a year
>still don’t have a job

Explain yourselves, shitlords

@esgee Source?

ikr

_young, right-wing, authoritarian_

one of these things is not like the other lol

@Comrade Skeltal >Young >Authoritarian Yeah no

Man this other discord linked from leftypol is shit

It just groups all ‘radical’ ideologies together including fascists

Fascism is for actual brainlets

The State is never the highest good. Power comes from the people. The State is simply a tool for the advancement of the interests of its people.

That’s why the Roman Empire fell; the citizens had no incentive to hold allegiance to a government that didn’t care for *their* interests and wasn’t accountable to *them*

Why do you think Nazi Germany was so much more stable and powerful than Fascist Italy? The Nazis held their people (the “Völk”) in a higher regard than the state itself, so the Germans actually had a reason to support the regime. Italians were simply bullied into supporting Mussolini, so of course they turned on him at first chance.

Please note I’m not in any way endorsing Nazism, it’s just the closest comparison to Fascism that highlights the latter’s pitfalls

The pre-Stalinist USSR had public support because it was a people’s movement. The USSR lost its favor with the citizenry when Stalin turned it into an oppressive state that ignored the interests of the proletariat.

Is that pasta

No

The state evolved with increasing social complexity, centralization occurs when populations become too large and complex to manage

The aim of the state is to resolve contradictions and conflicts in mass society

You can’t have a stateless society without reverting to a prior social form

Centralization isn’t necessarily a problem, the problem comes when the state forgets who it is accountable to.

The state isn’t an organism that remembers or forgets things, that kind of organic conception of the state is actually fascist and derived from Spengler etc. it’s a bureaucracy, and that’s ok.

I’m a managerialist, new world order now

Actually communism, fascism and liberal democracy are all forms of managerial govt

Only one survived

If you actually compare the ideologies from as unbiased a standpoint as possible, Stalinism much more closely resembles Strasserism than it does Communism. I’d go as far as to say that real Communism as an ideology died when Leon Trotsky was assassinated by one of Stalin’s thugs.

It’s easy to say that when we don’t know what Trotsky would have done if actually in power...the failure of international revolution made it somewhat inevitable that the USSR would have been an authoritarian nationalist state...would Trotsky have made a difference? I’m not convinced

International revolution could have happened at least within the confines of an expanding, imperialist USSR if it had taken the effort to replace Russian nationalism with global Proletarian identity. Convincing workers of other countries that they shared the interests of the USSR could have led to more successful revolutions and eventual assimilation into the Union.

I identify with Mournier’s personalist manifesto but idk how that would look like in practice...ideology is mostly LARPing for intellectuals

Hard to convince them that they shared the interests of the USSR when the USSR was busy being imperialist and stoking nationalist fears in other countries

But relitigating history isn’t very enlightening, things happened the way they did and moving forward without falling into purity spirals is the best praxis

@Deleted User ur shit makes no sense

What?

@Cooper

@Kek Because that really worked good with china and russia.

Wtf is this https://youtu.be/Gei9vdYmmSw

good video

also fun fact the communist party USA is going to turn 100 years old next year

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_USA

it was founded in 1919

it just shows how much free speech we have in this country

it's astonishing that a party like this could be around for so long

(and not gain any momentum whatsoever lole)

also, this turns 60 years old next year

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Nazi_Party

equally astonishing

@Brickiest Brick >When a party founded in the 60's get's more done than a party thas existed since the 10's.

https://youtu.be/qvrS6z4tUtI

uhm hello

is this serious group or just for memes ?

@Leon Trotsky#2191 99% Natsoc idiots, don't take them seriously

Ikr

@LOAVE#1706 you tagged the wrong trotsky

there is me and then there are @Kek

@Leon Trotsky#2191 Nope.

you guys were talking to Kek#1955

and not Leon Trotsky#5979

@Kek 1 I can't fucking tag him it just tags you

just say @ and type kek

then you get him

@Kek

@Donitz I wonder why.....

@Deleted User What do you want? Are we going to talk about the Holocaust agin or can you just admit you're wrong so we can move on to something else?

>Pisses off about the holocaust after getting piled with evidence
>Comes back an hour to say "Oh I dismissed all of that"
Do you happen to be jewish?

Lol

When you say piled

@Comrade Skeltal There was a lot of evidence that got thrown his way, so much so, that it could make a pile, hence the term.

@Deleted User I don't remember much but I do remember I proved the Holocaust was real.... OOOO i'm da jew you got me!

Well I mean

When you say evidence

@Comrade Skeltal Nazis will lie about winning a debate to win it,sad isn't it?

@Donitz And you proved my point when you say that.

Im almost entirely sure we're talking dated and on or dodgy "experts." Cause I mean, its the holocaust. There really isnt much up for debate.

@Comrade Skeltal Rex thinks no one died in the Holocaust lmao

Its not something heavily disputed through any factual or reliable basis. Millions didnt just vanish at random lol

You remember nothing from the debate, but the only thing you made up for yourself was "Oh I won, I defineatly BTFO THESE EVIL NAZI'S", when in reality, all you did was leave and forget about it.

So is this trolling or lol?

@Comrade Skeltal Not at all.

@Deleted User What do you think about the Holodmor,do you even care about looking into that objectivly?

Now, I cant put my finger one why, but I dont seem to believe you lol.

Nah man holodomor definitely happened lol

Since I am low on time, I will not get too far into detail, but if the holocaust DID happen, why is there such as discrepency between the red cross, world census, and other reports? And why was much of the evidence actually fabricated by the soviets? And why were such luxurious accomidations for the prisoners in the camps if it was a death camp?
@Donitz I did talk about it..... 3 fucking times now, your mind is playing tricks on you again, or you are shittily trolling.

@Comrade Skeltal Really the Russian population grows at the same rate during the supposed Holocaust and ONLY drops with the reintroduction of capitalism in the 1990s

https://www.google.com/search?q=russian+population&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS702US702&oq=Russian+popula&aqs=chrome.0.0j69i57j0l4.3024j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

What lol

"Discrepancies between _nonstate third party watchdogs_"

@Comrade Skeltal Regarding the Holocaust though Rex admitted he was trolling so I wouldn't take his arguments seriously

"Why was much of the evidence _actually_ fabricated" because stumbling onto mass grsves is fabrication lol

@Comrade Skeltal That is implying that organizations such as the redcross were not internationally run parties.

Ik but its a good troll

@Donitz Are you legitimately fucking retarded?

@Deleted User Ad-Hominem attack how intellectual

I didnt imply they arent run by international parties

I said they were non state actors lmao