There is a lot of confusion, unknowing, and lies around it.

My view on it, is that it started as a crop famine, and due to stalin being stalin, he made the situation 10X worse than actually fixxing it, plus he had a disliking for the ukranian anarchists.

@Deleted User So why do you think Communism is worse that Natsoc if the Holodmor wasn't deliberate?

Does a crop famine and an internment camp determine every part of two beliefs?

@Deleted User You claimed a big problem with Communism is that it leads to many people dying ,and as far as I know you that is all you have said is wrong with Communism.

@Donitz Did I associatr every death for communism with the crop famine?

@Deleted User Did you?

Oh my fucking god.......
No, obviously not.

@Deleted User Where in the Communist manifesto does it advocate for violence ?

>Trumps been president for almost a year
>still don’t have a job

Explain yourselves, shitlords

@esgee Source?

ikr

_young, right-wing, authoritarian_

one of these things is not like the other lol

@Comrade Skeltal >Young >Authoritarian Yeah no

Man this other discord linked from leftypol is shit

It just groups all ‘radical’ ideologies together including fascists

Fascism is for actual brainlets

The State is never the highest good. Power comes from the people. The State is simply a tool for the advancement of the interests of its people.

That’s why the Roman Empire fell; the citizens had no incentive to hold allegiance to a government that didn’t care for *their* interests and wasn’t accountable to *them*

Why do you think Nazi Germany was so much more stable and powerful than Fascist Italy? The Nazis held their people (the “Völk”) in a higher regard than the state itself, so the Germans actually had a reason to support the regime. Italians were simply bullied into supporting Mussolini, so of course they turned on him at first chance.

Please note I’m not in any way endorsing Nazism, it’s just the closest comparison to Fascism that highlights the latter’s pitfalls

The pre-Stalinist USSR had public support because it was a people’s movement. The USSR lost its favor with the citizenry when Stalin turned it into an oppressive state that ignored the interests of the proletariat.

Is that pasta

No

The state evolved with increasing social complexity, centralization occurs when populations become too large and complex to manage

The aim of the state is to resolve contradictions and conflicts in mass society

You can’t have a stateless society without reverting to a prior social form

Centralization isn’t necessarily a problem, the problem comes when the state forgets who it is accountable to.

The state isn’t an organism that remembers or forgets things, that kind of organic conception of the state is actually fascist and derived from Spengler etc. it’s a bureaucracy, and that’s ok.

I’m a managerialist, new world order now

Actually communism, fascism and liberal democracy are all forms of managerial govt

Only one survived

If you actually compare the ideologies from as unbiased a standpoint as possible, Stalinism much more closely resembles Strasserism than it does Communism. I’d go as far as to say that real Communism as an ideology died when Leon Trotsky was assassinated by one of Stalin’s thugs.

It’s easy to say that when we don’t know what Trotsky would have done if actually in power...the failure of international revolution made it somewhat inevitable that the USSR would have been an authoritarian nationalist state...would Trotsky have made a difference? I’m not convinced

International revolution could have happened at least within the confines of an expanding, imperialist USSR if it had taken the effort to replace Russian nationalism with global Proletarian identity. Convincing workers of other countries that they shared the interests of the USSR could have led to more successful revolutions and eventual assimilation into the Union.

I identify with Mournier’s personalist manifesto but idk how that would look like in practice...ideology is mostly LARPing for intellectuals

Hard to convince them that they shared the interests of the USSR when the USSR was busy being imperialist and stoking nationalist fears in other countries

But relitigating history isn’t very enlightening, things happened the way they did and moving forward without falling into purity spirals is the best praxis

@Deleted User ur shit makes no sense