go inforwars

pleps

utter state of that attempt at English

homosexuality is a sin tbh

good

Hell is a real place and you get there through sin

well if all the gays are going to hell, then it must be a fun place

I don't want to hang out with str*ight subhumans anyway

Is pony for sexual?

hello?

Yo

hi

Hola

hey

how r u?

Good u

good

thanks

Np

what r u doing?

did you draw that?

Having some beer and wings

did you draw that?

Me? No

ok

nobody draws anime anymore, silly

its all genrated by japanese AI

i am silly?

AI?

no your cool

what is that?

i love you

luv u

r u my sons friends?

hello

Lol @Deleted User

lol

valtiel

vc blease

hey

do you know Richard?

are you who he talks to on the computer

am logging off now, bye

Is drinking beer out of a straw redpilled?

https://youtu.be/Y9rZkXvpO_s daca protest in texas, livestream

keeek

just got the notification

my alex jones provider

@Deleted User Lol is that Communist Party of Rumania logo?
@Firefly Fate series character. Also lmao is that a fucking Yoba meme.
@Deleted User Antideutsche is like one of the dumbest things ever, they manage to be even more retarded than regular Antifa.

Is pony for sexual?

Good question, ask the cloppers

Direct me to them

do we like mlp lads?

@vagine no

Mlp?

@ego_sum_jeffum My Little Pony

My sister used to like it up until she was about seven

Tbf, it's not a bad show if you factor in it's target audience.

Hoi

"we can say that a person is materially free in Sartre’s sense if (a) she enjoys basic material security; (b) she is un-coerced; and (c) she has access to cultural and social goods necessary for pursuing her chosen projects."
If Sartre is correct, Individualist Anarchism is fucked. RIP Stirner. Freedom requires organisation and accommodation of at least some spooks.
http://www.iep.utm.edu/sartre-p/#H3

https://discord.gg/aJn8VZ

Freedom requires the creation of an enlightened individual, who is has both the material means to ensure their freedom, and the wisdom not to coerce others in securing this means. In the situation where the majority of individuals are not enlightened, are not full accomplished in their understanding of cause and effect in navigating their actions, then a collectivisation of interests between individuals is necessary in order to protect the whole from the mistake of a reckless few. Such a structure would entail a transitory period, probably a state, and given the collective nature, would probably be socialist. Anarchism by itself is premature and crude to as a means to achieve freedom. Not only are individuals not ready for freedom, they are not able to protect it, being insufficiently accomplished to do so.

Mad dog

Do not interrupt me. If you want to ask questions do it elsewhere.

Lol

You heard him don't interrupt him

As a communist I oppose deportation because it will get rid of the BBC that pounds my wife every night

^

https://discord.gg/CnTF5u

Daily reminder you edgy faggots

i don't read these shitty memes

sorry

Get out

nah

just got here

Now

tl;dr the shit tier meme or else

Wut

The Meme is shit. The message is real

what is the message

@Valtiel they both deserve the bullet

I dunno how about you read a book?

@MrAlpal you deserve a lynching

naw

it would take less time than reading the meme

Lol

@auntie civ then that wouldn't be a problem for you

I suppose so

this server is pretty dead huh?

Hey Google, kill @auntie civ

It is dead at certain times, yes

I like the idea of it though

This isn't leftist

really?

then why was I invited?

It's a shitshow

leftypol confirmed not comrades then?

Yeah

This is not true leftpol

I would find a better server

lol

that's what every leftypol space says

"this isn't true leftypol"

The owner just spams links

@auntie civ I'm not a commie so I wouldn't know.

He willingly invites fascists and capitalists

And let's them spam

I hate hate commies, but I just hate the far right a little bit more

sounds boring

I'm actually antifa, I care less about communism than smashing windows for no reason

Kewl

I just want to beat people up for stating their beliefs

Yeah! You do that!

ty

Kill them!

whoa

Youre so cool

oh not as cool as you

surely

Of course, I'm 2 cool 4 her

Or him

Kek

or neither

what is that?

Guess

I asked because I don't know

Fascist Russian flag?

Nice meme

Nazbol

Meme

Geography anyone?

Oh Czech

It's the Czechoslovak communist party symbol

Stopp

I know that nigger

jesus

Did he own abbos?

stalin is/was shit

k

Any Aussies here?

I am

Pot favor..

Por*

De verdad?

Reallyyy

No hablar espanol

What part?

por que no?

NT

Oh. I dunno.NT North territory? I have family in Victoria

ew

Darwin to be precise.

ew

From what I've seen Victoria seemed like a very pleasant place to live

Nothing in NT
Only SJWs in Victoria

Huh what?

*Hits crack pipe*

@Valtiel if you like Sudanese rapefugees bashing you over the head

Second thought, go visit Victoria

I hope all of you are real Stalinists

💯 😎

@Subhuman✓ᵂᵒᵏᵉ Kys pendejo

That's rude

@clan @Valtiel

FYI I'm not really here to discuss politic.... I'm just here for the free food

living in a communist server you grab all the food you can grab

and then some, and hope the riots don't get to bad or you get mugged

@Deleted User
>communism
>food

ikr?

The color purple represents food

Does anyone here believe that freedom exists?

I believe that it's a useful concept in a vaacuum, but saying that the best society is the one with the fewest restrictions on it falls apart immediately when you apply it to reality, because different people have contradictory ends, and society isn't individualistic in nature.

To be entirely honest, freedom is a need in a lot of ways.

Such as the freedom to privacy.

Without it, that feeling of being constantly watched, you are harmed. But not all freedoms a reasonable or needed in modern society.

Good answer. What is the value of freedom, if any? Could there be a difference between being conscious of ones freedom, and being materially free in reality?

Such as some forms of economic freedom, it is best to restrict them in favor of collective gain.

Could there? I suppose you could believe you're completely free while being a slave, or the otehr way around.

In other words, are there any material conditions that exist the reduce freedom to zero?

🤔 Well, what is freedom truly?

Is it greater purpose or the ability to choose?

Is it both? Or is it only one?

Like I said, it's the absence of restrictions. You are "Free to do", means that you are not prevented from doing.

I'd say you can never really rip away someone freedom to greater purpose, you can hinder it, but even rid them of it without killing them. The ability to choose can almost completely be stripped away from someone.

EDIT: Actually, you can. But I argue they stop being human when their spirit, everything about them, is gone.

But you still have some natural freedoms. Such as when to shit and pee.

Well, freedom always has limitations, between wants and abilities. But I am more getting to the difference between the consciousness of freedom and the material 'reality' which you spoke of that causes it to break down. Presumably, as long as you are conscious you are in some way free. What I want to determine is the extent to which freedom is independent of material conditions. How much can it be reduced to pure Egoism and self-sufficient. But we could also talk about the different between 'freedom from' and 'freedom to', but first we have to see what freedom is its relationship to self and reality.

Apparently, from a purely material standpoint, freedom doesn't really exist in the subjective sense. It is just a reflection of deterministic reality.

Freedom is not a material construct, though. It is a social construct. It is entirely dependent on your relations to other people, the level, (if any) of power they hold over you, and how they choose to wield it.

Well, yeah. What Hosit said.

For example, if I pulled a gun on you, and made you give me your jacket, that would be a violation of your freedom, but if your jacket was merely blown away by the wind, that's not a violation of your freedom, that's just shit luck.

Kind of. No person is all-powerful. We are free to the extent we are able to express it, but is there an essence of freedom here? I can always passively refuse to comply. Resistance is a good example of freedom. It does not have to be in your interest to be free but you can do it.

Coersion is not consent, though. If I offer you the options of servitude or death, you are technically free to choose death, but if you then choose servitude, no reasonable person would say that you had a meaningful choice in your enslavement.

What is a 'meaningful choice' then? Is there some bias here?

There's also no objective measure to determine how free we really are in any given scenario. A person who appear free may not be or vice versa. This is why I meant the idea of an essence of freedom - at any moment you can refuse the status quo so long as you are conscious of this. Even a vegetable (paralysed person) can change their own mental content.

You've been reading too much Sartre mate.

Haha, how did you know.

Arguing that no matter how unfree you may be, you're still free to change your own mental content. Who else but Sartre?

It seems like the only way to defend individualism, and engaging in a material idea of freedom is a slippery slope to undermining all of this.

Thanks for the input.

You're welcome, mate.

Even so, not everyone and not at all times, are people aware of their reactions and free choosing of them. In the same way that a physical prison materially inhibits a person, so could there be, conceivable and mental prison blocking one's ability to self-reflect or be consciousness. Awareness is a temporal gift. All kinds of freedom can be taken away, and to suggest that a person possesses a freedom essence at all times is magical thinking. Furthermore, this temporal nature of freedom also challenged what it meant to be human. If a person is unaware and unfree, are they still human? All of this is inconsistent with material sensibilities. Freedom is neither here nor there. A sensation, at best, a subjective reflection of objective processes.

Somehow this is very unsettling.

Combatting long held assumptions, and questioning ideology you didn't even realised you believed is always unsettling.

@ego_sum_jeffum why not both?
https://cherryparkofzombies.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/stalin.jpg

>gif
>doesn't even move

Shut your face

or what

Punch a gay fascist in the face

I'm not a fascist tho @Valtiel

And so, politically speaking, not everyone is free and not at all times. The concept of freedom is bourgeois idealism. It is based on privileged material conditions at the expense of others, and the ideological push towards freedom in society also only serves the few with the material position to use it. Freedom is just an excuse to exploit others, and has no real objective reality. Since freedom is a destructive force, people ought to remove it from their minds as a bourgeois trick used to repress others.

Freedom was a mistake.

Youre a mistake

*"Freedom is a bourgeois prejudice. We repudiate all morality which proceeds from supernatural ideas or ideas which are outside the class conception. In our opinion, morality is entirely subordinate to the interests of the class war. Everything is moral which is necessary for the annihilation of the old exploiting order and for the uniting the proletariat. Our morality consists solely in close discipline and conscious warfare against the exploiters."* **Vladimir Ilylich Lenin**

@Wilhelm Zaisser#5032 nice fake quote

@Deleted User do you have a more specific source for that Lenin quote?

@Hositrugun Apparently was in a letter to Emma Goldman.

Good riddance to Lenin tbh

Goy bye

And Marx

And Stalin

Maybe it's from her book *My Disillusionment in Russia*.

No, I can't find it.

Maybe the quote is too good to be true. I can't find it in Lenin's Collected Works either.

Never post a quote without verifying it.

Yep. I fucked up.

@Deleted User
>communigger
>gullible
Imagine my shock

How the fuck has this millionaire cunt not been banned, yet?

Firefly only bans people for autistic reasons

But I can admit my mistakes and try to correct it from happening again in the future. All is not lost.

In fact I would prefer to be pulled up on errors rather than not.

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@Hositrugun Well, this server is strictly free to speech.

@Hositrugun kek

The only people banned spam pornography or gore.

Which we have had before in the past.

Understood. Apologies for not understanding the banning policy. I'm new here.