Wait what, you just concluded that story is fake because it was 'racist' ?

Amazing insight you have there my friend

He used it to prove a point

A convenient study

*story

To prove a point theyre not class a citizens, at least not in Florida

'They'

Yeah its widespread bro, im not special in my circumstance

You're probably a scientific racist too

By no means unique in being robbed

Check the back of their forehead

Well, running around and telling people they're 'not socialists' doesn't really work when you're ignoring the most materialistic approach tied to this story, the crime statistics among black people

If they have 2 lumps

It is a fact

'That means they're more ape than human'

That 1 in 4-5 black people in US end up being criminals

When someone points a gun at you, then you can be christian and turn the other cheek, it was legitimately scary as fuck when it happened and I refuse to stop calling them niggers

And accepting this fact does not make us racists

Maybe you just need to face mortality to respect your own life a little more

None of this is relevant to calling them offensive names

If thats my only crime I can live with it, they shouldnt be throwing stones if they live in glass houses

Florida man eh, what were you doing with 9k cash on you though, I am wondering

Scrap business

You go from yard to yard loading down a trailer, I worked labor formthe company, not a business owner

Socialists are supposed to be 'colourblind' all workers are equally in the struggle

You trolls are great at making stories

Does that pay well in US? @Antillean

Tag team eh?

Trying to divide the socialist community?

Not on my watch

Listen, the thing I just said is the proof that capitalism doesn't work in US and we should be analyzing the points why it doesn't work for all of the society, with black people having the emphasis

@Cotton you're obviously in on it by trying to legitimise his story

Though you are just here to jump to conclusions, you don't even listen

"Black people having the emphasis"

This is not a race thing

People always try to include race

A dividing factor that works extremely well to divide

Ok, so you do work in scrap metal

I habe nothing to gain by lying, none of you know me

I admitted im not a commie, I have no interest in gathering influence

Milton friedman capitalist, with no stance on civics

Black people having the emphasis because it obviously doesn't work for them the most, hence they're being pushed to be criminals in current system

Was just defending my use of nigger, I dont like people pointing guns at me just feet away

And in the areas of town scrap yards are located, there sure is aloft of them

'Them'

Can see them smoking crack on the sidewalk, dont even try to hide it

uS has some cray cray places

Yeah I can emphasise honestly, I've been robbed twice

It sucked for that time and I was really angry, however I had time to go over it with analyzing the reasons that made them push to committing crime, with the risk of getting caught and ending up in prison, dying in self-defence even

I was too scared to attempt any kind of self defense and I dont mind admitting it

Now when i see people comment they would leg sweep the guy or take the gun fro, his hands on robbery videos i know theyre full of shit

Its not really turning the other cheek behaviour, I have learned my lesson and will Fuck them up if anyone tries to rob me again

Trying to sound different to others doesn't work when you can see message history @Cotton , @Antillean

?

Haha

Ive never larped as a commie or socialist

Exposed, I am a racist natsoc

Ahhh the arabs and their flower smelling asses

White supremacist and holocaust denier

I have to admit, caught me off guard

Well memed, my friend

<:smugpepe:230420717609418752>

Lol

Been good chat, its nearing 7 am, shower then slave wage time

Racism + Fantasies = this

But don't you see me insisting in the usage of 'lady' instead of 'woman' ?

That shows I don't fall for the liberal feminist meme

Hello, friends.

I'm glad we are talking intelligent things now.

I was very close to leaving.

And I still think I will leave Discord.

I have a lot to do in my day and think that have this app open is being a distraction.

It would be good if I had the magic bullet to beat everyone who disagreed with me but I don't.

Really, discussion is a brute force operation and those who want to fight it are doing so as a robot.

I have learned all I can here I now just feel like I am explained basic things every day to people who can't accept it.

Thanks for the friends (and allies), but there is nothing left here for me. I have a farm to run and many community projects to attend to.

Rest in Discord.

*stoya

All the best, of we cross paths again, I will know the ML guys and will join you again.

But until then. Peace.

Wish you the best

@Deleted User no

Shit

Well discord is the best thing thing you can get to being similar with actual human interaction

And if you're running a farm, you will need that

Other than that, you have a place in here and leaving for other platforms would just be the waste of the time you have spent here for getting that place

Assuming you will be back in a while, when you are drunk

There are still things we need to discuss

Intellectual improvement has no limit

later, dork @Deleted User

imo we need a genuine admin

someone who is anti sectarian, so he will not ban other types of socialists and communists

and someone who tolerates capitalists who visit just for discussion, and bans capitalists who come here to shitpost

Would you ban shitposting socialists?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJfDDb2tMLQ#t=2.181976

i wont

@IVAN CHESNOKOV there's no difference between tolerating opposite opinions and tolerating shitposting, serious discussions are always around when there are people doing it and shitposting is allowed only so far that it doesn't sabotage the serious discussions with spamming etc.

@Cotton ok, but i still wont tolerate those ignorant pieces of shit who come here to talk shit and make people leave

did you see this /pol/tard who posted people eating shit and posted the same arguments over and over?

i would ban fuckers like them tbh

@Cotton Except at least three of them last night openly confessed to being trolls and shitposters

some people aren't interested in serious dialogue, which is fine, but I don't see why we have to put up with it

Sure, it is irritating but I honestly don't think it's possible to stop shitposting in a public online platform. It has been attempted before in the servers I was in, it ended up with servers dying in long term.

I mean that pianoman vs Koba_93 argument started with mass-posting Solzhenitsyn quotes and ended with them irately swapping chad credentials at who beat more pussy

On the other hand, people who deliberately and openly sabotage serious discussions are getting warned and banned, if they keep it up

You have a point tho, they say 8chan's dying because the mods have more care for creating 'regulated discussion'

than they do for anons posting what makes them happy

I woke up and pianoman and koba were still at it

fucking lol

pianoman's actually fairly chill, he calmed down after Koba paused for breath

Yeah, I personally see the only valid course of action as intervening when there is a serious discussion going on and people try to sabotage it with shitposts

Yeah same lmao

spamming images should get you a whipping

Spamming the same images over and over gets you warned and then banned, it happened yesterday

Or the day before, not sure

The main point is we need to believe in the rehabilitation of the people, as much as absolute fucking illiterate retards they are

Loose moderation is a better strategy than cracking down on people, I've been at enough forums to have seen it play out

@Timo))) do you have any contact with our dear parenthesis guy via common servers or being friends?

I need him to elaborate some points he made, shit was really interesting

sadly no, haven't seen him in a while

Yeah he's banned here too

Fuck

really?

that guy was entertaining as fuck

Yeah, good food for thought

rly makes u think

Activated my almonds on many levels

I did read the tao te ching on recommendation of another guy who reminded me of him (big brains)

Was way more libertarian than I would have ever thought

The thing is, he bases his claims on scientific facts, like he's not as full of shit as he looks

Rather scientific uhh, arguments

Wait are you talking about lavabeard? Please tell me you do

yes

lol

Ahahahahahahahagahahaha

Lavabeard is my one and eternal love

Amazing guy

Yea he is good too

need more people like those two

just dopping the redpills and going on tangents

I think you meant they're similar in a way that they're both a bit vague and more in the metaphysical side

And 'being one and whole with everything' obviously

Tao

Parenthesis guy was literally on tao without being aware of it

yes, the tao is a good book, easy read too

What did you think of the general philosophy?

Of tao

I can see it working for some but too pacifistic for my liking

some great chapters in there, real wisdom

I dont mean like in the practical sense, tao is correlated with stoicism and it represent its practical side there

I meant if you agreed on the 'wholeness' and the eternal cycle and all that structures when you gave some thought to it

Anyone here familiar with Guénon?

should probs go in theory

but French or English hmm

No kys

not very nice

Neither are you

I so am

Nah

but I love you Lenin

-_-

you slay liquidators and shun leftcoms

Tru

(>-_-)>

I don't know what that is but I still love you

Then read my books

My child

I've read a good few

I recommend my letter to the American workers it's only like 15 pages

haven't read that one

Loved State & Revolution tho fam

One of my best works

is it dis one? https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1918/aug/20.htm

Here's a vacation photo from when the kremlin took me to Disney land

Yee it's dat one

those fucking dastardly scumbags

Tru

<:lenin:322125387297456131>

you see

having argued literally last night with people who'd assert capitalism vs communism in an all-out slugging match of productive efficiency (LOL NO STARVATION IN 1ST WORLD COUNTRIES) it really hits home that none of them could've read anything even remotely related to the subject matter

The first page of this is partly dedicated to describing the US industrial apparatus as one worthy of praise and intrigue, but one fundamentally set apart from collective ownership/operation

Marx talks about it quite a lot too

think he downplays the financial incentives for 1776 though

"The history of modern, civilised America opened with one of those great, really liberating, really revolutionary wars of which there have been so few compared to the vast number of wars of conquest[...]"

Did you recommend this because of what I said about liquidators?

"Small wonder that the international imperialist gang hates us for this, that it “accuses” us, that all the lackeys of the imperialists, including our Right Socialist-Revolutionaries and Mensheviks, also “accuse” us. The hatred these watchdogs of imperialism express for the Bolsheviks, and the sympathy of the class-conscious workers of the world, convince us more than ever of the justice of our cause."

@Deleted User ahh that's why
"there are *fagots* et fagots, as the French say"

The fuck

'agreements and agreements' I think

Mmhm

might start using 'man in the muffler'

well i wanted to argue about poverty in the western world, you didn't want to

cause if we're counting poverty to the death toll of a system the rest of the systems stand no chance

I wasn't averse to it, I was just correcting some of the misassumptions you made before hand

like?

and I sort of did address it, I acknowledged that capitalism as a mode of production has led to an increase in quality of life

but that assertions made in Das Kapital were relevant as they had their basis in observing material conditions of Russian laborers at the time

I was arguing against the ''death toll'' of capitalism, the article you posted

Specifically?

it included poverty which is insane

I don't know, you posted it

You don't know what you were arguing against?

I didn't write the article mate

you don't know what you were posting as an argument?

lmao

I gave it as food for thought versus the "Communist Death Toll" meme, I hadn't read it all.

and then you complained that I didn't read it fully, when you didn't even do it.

wtf

you hadn't read any of it

you just assumed it was wrong

no shit, I wasn't citing it

let's get the article up again

http://guerrillaontologies.com/2014/05/attempting-the-impossible-calculating-capitalisms-death-toll/

"Poverty. One of the most overlooked causes of death today is something called “structural violence” – that is, violence against the bottom rungs of society in order to make a profit. Structural violence can occur due to lack of medical care, slashing of wages, gentrification, etc. But without a doubt, structural violence is the largest killer WORLDWIDE. Studies performed by Canadian researches Gernot Kohler and Norman Alcock published under the title “An Empirical Table of Structural Violence” found that 18,000,000 people die each year due to systemic poverty"

''18,000,000 people die each year due to systemic poverty"'' KEK

I want to see that study

sounds like pure nonsense

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/002234337601300405

''Structural violence can occur due to lack of medical care, slashing of wages, gentrification, etc.''

again, I wouldn't go in with assumptions

You did it when you cited the study

which you didn't even read

"sounds like pure nonsense"

don't do that

I didn't

"I gave it as food for thought versus the "Communist Death Toll" meme, I hadn't read it all."

you did post an article you hadn't even read

I hadn't read all of it, I'd scanned through it.

not a good idea when posting something as evidence of the big bad capitalism killing machine

If you do know what it's about, tell me how capitalism produces poverty deaths that don't happen in other systems

lol

"READ FOR ME"

While I'm reading this article for you, tell me

What incentive would the Vietnam war have been based on without capitalist interests in the region?

"The War in Vietnam to “beat Communism” and maintain an Asian sphere of influence – 3,800,000 Vietnamese between 1955-1984 [46] about 58,000 US soldiers [47] about 200,000 in Laos [48] about 300,000 in Cambodia [49] it’s hard to calculate Agent Orange deaths but up to 4,800,000 people were exposed [50] and 100,000 US soldiers killed themselves"

Same reason any other country invades another country

to spread their influence

here's the full source btw http://sci-hub.cc/10.1177/002234337601300405

"to spread their influence"

explain.

What's their to explain? they would like another friendly country in asia

Industries have financial incentives to maintain capitalist spheres of trade throughout the world

to plant their military base etc

e.g. the rubber trade having an incentive to open up African markets

e.g. the Congo