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This truly is a welfare commune.
THANK YOU
do you want to disprove our argument that hard that you try to look like you don't get it?
it's not that hard you know?
a 5 year old can differentiate needs and wants
xD
true
it's like the first thing a baby learns
they learn they need milk but not the toy
But then you separated needs and commidities, which did not make any sense at all.
because everyone in the political sphere knows what commodities mean. Wants are kid vocabulary
commodity is just a catch all term for wants
but literally a commodity is like any marketable item
If a commidite is any marketable item, does that make people a commidite in your commune?
jesus christ
ok
capitalism rents people for work
communist society is managed by workers
nobody trades workers
for people own themselves
(I just wanted to see how you would react to that)
(I was just pretending to be retarded xddd trulled hard)
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the joke is
the top is an adam smith quote
hehehe
I chuckled
I exhaled sharply from my nose
Yes the Socialist state provides welfare. ๐
did someone say
๐ ฑELFARE
Is that a dirty word or something?
๐ ฑes
Why?
It's actually not
It's just a meme
Are you really an Anarchist?
yea
I look forward to our future arguments.
o k
>marx supports temporary demsoc policies
>nah fam thats not communist
demsocs are just liberals on crack
marx was a liberal on crack
apparently
oh ok
k so what are we doing now?
Chopin just triggered me
how?
idk
*snowflake?*
jk
we should get back on private vs personal property
Progressive 'Liberal' or Bourgeois 'I like the taste of boot leather on my face' apologist 'Liberal'?
Dangerlurking stated that personal property is private property
private is land and personal is objects as far as I'm aware
yeah
objects that don't produce something also
and private is used to get munny
that are not a mean of production
Like tooth brushes, guns, flamethrowers, and fleshlights.
when you spot a typo in your opponent's statement and make a meme as a substitute for an argument
Best typo I've ever seen
ancap `server:https://discord.gg/EJuQ6X
from the website: discord.me
>John Green
has any1 read nicomachean ethics, politics, and rhetoric from aristotle? If so, which is more important?
Important for what?
who sent the picture of pope sucking a foot
i want it
found it
Thanks my nigga
He's cool
Never went revisonist
What comrade Hoxha been saying about him?
He didn't say much, but he liked him
How do you know?
Because he came into power in the late seventies
Or early eighties
What he wrote about Hoxha, Stalin and Mao?
He liked Mao, had positive views on Stalin, and was a fan of Hoxha
Nice
Should I read him?
He didn't write much theory
But yeah he was cool
How unfortunate.
Yeah he was only in power from '79 to '90 I think
@I am New didn't Hox hate Mao
@Deleted User It is complicated.
In his later days when he went revisonist yeab
RIP
Mao started Liberalizing some shit
>prioritizing agriculture over industry despite China's historically awful farm efficiency
oh Mao
whoag
who added me
@Deleted User we were awaiting you here.
Hello
Welcome to newcomers!
oh
Hello.
Hail
I also would like to see anarchist revolution but chances are they're going to be incapable of doing it. No fun at all.
They'll do it and then get crushed right away when someone invades them.
But at least we could see it. It is better than Game of Thrones even.
And you can even participate.
Try to teach them some theory.
Anarchists have a violent mental illness and it is a threat to everyone. Avoid.
man victoria 2 is hard to learn
There are some anarcho-communists in Russia who study theory and philosophy hard. They have trouble with the rest anarchists and have like 3-5 men.
Why would you ever work with Anarchists? It is just as likely they will be more useful to the enemy and be the hotbed of opportunism.
I've been anarchist and people worked with me. I appreciate and honor it.
But are you still an Anarchist? Would you know better now? They are a hazard.
Liberal Soros SJW is much greater hazard than an educated and cooperative anarchist. As I'm saying there are just few of them in the world.
They have a high capacity becoming good communist if they study.
While they usually don't
Theyre too reactionary
Anarchists are useful
Give me link to CIA
I forgot about you guys.
I'm deleting! Sadly! Relocating to great hall but also staying here
So I'll be posting more often here
I kinda liked the name of the server.
Criminally Insane Anarchists disguised as the Central Intelligence Agency
It was the perfect plot
Yes! I think you should continue!
Maybe, I was thinking about putting up posters in major cities
You can have your space and channel here.
great tweet
Thank you comrade @Firefly <3
@closed for business The presence of right-wing tells much more.
eh
I mean some right-wing stance are understandable
but flat earth
ugh
sorry
I'm a gray area peacemaker
What about imaginary people in the sky?
I said some not all jesus
fuck
I don't even believe jesus was a diety
What about electing Trump or Hillary?
both suck
trump sucks more
Right-wing is a failure of the educational system.
at the end of the day though
We have to increase our presence in schools and universities.
you can't stop them from existing
To make it better.
you have to ignore them
and move on
I kinda don't get why I joined other than being a leftist
@closed for business we have to teach them in schools better.
Who if not us?
I mean I understand where you come from
but no matter how hard you try
the right wing will still exist
and hell
i don't think there should be sides
I think it should be a spectrum
It can exist in Gulag system or it can exist on top of the imperialist state.
uniformitarian thinking destroys the beauty of discussion
Nothing is forever, not even the right wing.
but you could say the same for the left
And it's true
you could say the same for everything
the left and the right are almost equally flawed
I'm left leaning
because I feel
the left is less flawed
but that doesn't mean I can't view right wing individuals as people
I do believe better education could get them to see the other side
but we can never force an ideology on to someone
@closed for business yes, so we have to go to every school, every uni.
as long as a diversity of opinion is allowed
That's the point. Nothing is forever. But the left has Dialectical Materialism, the right has no similar concept to embrace and accept progress.
but many leftist who say they want progress show regress
The height of rightism is cycles of time, which are not progressive.
These leftists are liberals. They are just as bad.
Only those who accept the tensions and struggles of class should have the honor of being called Leftist. The rest are bourgeois ideologues.
Hi.
hello
Hi there.
Are there any rules here?
idk
@I have Moved Childporn, gore, spam, derailing.
I'm a nazbol and they accept me so they don't seem to keen on censorship
Other than what @Firefly said
I think best friend is nazi?
Idk
He said he's far left now
Some Nazis are alright as long as they actually read fucking books
Fuck anyone who doesn't read theory of any kind
What's a economic system called that's runned by workers unions and cooperatives?
Syndicalism
Or market socialism
You can also have a bit of a combination of the two
Just checking because I tell people I'm a syndicalist and I don't want to sound dumb
Do you believe in workers councils?
i.e. radical trade unionism?
Syndicates?
yes, syndicates are trade unions, that form workers councils
I believe the market has to democraticly runned by the workers
You're a market socialist then
although that's not incompatible with syndicalism by any means
I used to be a strasserite before I became a nazbol and they're heavily into syndicalism and market socialism
along with national confederalism
What's strasserite?
The brownshirts before they got purged by Hitler for being too socialist
Lead by a man named Otto Strasser who tried to kill Hitler on multiple occasions
Lemme Google then
Them*
Wikipedia article on it is garbage
don't believe the propaganda
I can explain it to you if you want
Since I've actually read Strasserite theory
What is the ideaology?
They believe in removing private land through what they call "usufruct". The state would own all land. The german Stock market would also be eliminated.
give me a second and I'll go into further detail after I take a piss
I'm pretty plastered but I understand Strasserite theory pretty well
back
anyway
Otto Strasser was a member of the Nazi party back in the 20's and early 30's
along with his brother Gregor
Does Nihilism count as far left or right?
They had a heavy influence on the brownshirts at the time
@Various Communist Penguins#6583 depends on how you interpret it
They took the socialist aspect of national socialism very seriously
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Wait.
They saw Hitler as betraying the socialism inherent in the ideas of national socialism since the 25 points of national socialism called for the communalizalition of land the nationalization of heavy industry
Was there occrunce of a democratic country having only one party without that party eliminating the other parties?
What do you mean?
Like it had multiple parties beforehand
But slowly all of them got disbanded
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