Huey Long got it too

@Firefly yes

have you read hoxha

I did.

why stop

>says stalin

@Sampuka Point?

The soviet union was the most democratic society in the history of the world

there were exploitation in the SU, but I guess he doesn't have to be tied to then system he was a leader of

sounds ironic but it isn't

@Sampuka There was not exploitation in the SU, workers got the value of their labor. A cut was tken for the running of the country

fyi

That is not exploitation

the way marx described it

@BoleslawBierutLover I read often Stalin in Russian. I think Hoxha did the same.

Hoxha is bae

well, saying the state needed the surplus for something doesn't justify it

He will roast all of you revisionists

@Sampuka Yes it does, becauser the workers ran the state

it isn't a surplus

that money doesn't go into the pockets of the directors

Stalin made the same amount of money as the average doctor

but the workers aren't one person

You'd think a system that great would allow dissent from the workers

what if one person didn't agree with it

@Timo))) It did

There was plenty of self critiscism

Yet they had to keep them walled in and away from us products

not all kinds of dissent though

Yeah

like all countries

it is a dictatorship of the proletariat, you are idealist if you think people trying to restore bourgouise should go unpunished

We probably all agree here Hoxha had the best policy on Muslim religion to this day.

Ah so crack down on freedom

@Firefly Yes

@Firefly join vc

@Timo))) come to vc

we will discuss your misconceptions

I'm off to do something else

sure u r

I'm here often though, will debate you then

>Implying you have other things to do

lol ask anyone here, i always debate anyone

kinda wish I knew anything about USSR, but I only know the "common knowledge" and a bit more

it's 00:15 here

hi

hey liz

I like text format debating more tbh, because you have a chat history, and the social part of it is more alienated

so people with a lot of charisma or whatever won't effect it

Well I don't like typing

understandable

It gets boring

also I have no mic atm

commie triggered by hard work

?

No it is just talking is more efficent way of talking

on the contrary, why did socialists/communists fetishize labor so much?

I guess it's worker-oriented, but really

@BoleslawBierutLover Only if you use emotions too much.

@Sampuka join vc

that is such a weird question

no mic

0:23 am

also I kind of don't care about an answer to the question in all honestly

U have misconceptions

I sure do

about what marxist leninists believe

but we left our previous discussion abruptly

I have a small question

if a worker doesn't agree with the state-spending of the surplus value he was extracted, does that make it exploitation by Marx?

Dude

they control the state

I don't know how Marx talked about state-owners

workers control the state

through soviets

just but any single dude didn't

yeah

that is democracy

lmao

yeah everyone has a say

but obvisouyl you can disagree with the majority

The majority of people in the soviet union had to approve the plan before it went thorugh

the five year plans

I'm not talking about the majority

I am talking about a hypothetical single guy who doesn't want the spending to go towards what it did

@Sampuka u don't have to talk

but let me talk to u

just in theoretical terms, this is not an attack on ML

ok

okay 2 sec

kkk

kk*

not racist

connection a shit btw

yeah connection is too shit sorry

die

: o

hey

@Zayy hello and welcome!

hey

Hello

whats up

The sky

ok

Hardcore tankie here.

why tho

Firm believer in non-marxist third worldism

So Gaddafi, Assad, DPRK, etc.

why tho

Because, I believe the first and second world are not inherently revolutionary

okay

I believe that the third world must liberate itself, and form their own national identities, and defend themselves from foreign imperialists.

Me tbh

https://youtu.be/tWQSR2fGK8U

https://youtu.be/RzTzK_7tXCE

Netanyahu on his way to the Knesset

<:rbl:312038341736529923> 🇸🇾 <:rbl:312038341736529923>

Zionism is worse than fascism tbh. You should not equal this two.

People who call Assad a fascist are basic liberal lefties.

Defending its sovereignty Syria can use any means necessary.

He wants the Golan Heights returned back to Syria, by ANY means necessary

If it means eliminating the zionist state, so be it.

I agree.

Syria declared war on Israel and lost the golan heights

you declare war and lose you suffer conveniences

concequences

and they will win again

not conveniences

They are winning against the counter revolutionary rebel rats

They will win against the Tel Aviv regime

Watch as they try and get damnatio memoriaed out of history

They are allied with Assad, btw

Maybe if Israel were alone! But Israel has the imperialist US to fight wars for them

Right.

What if Israel will become unnecessary for USA.

the zionist regime is a fake one. Taken by force.

Simply a proxy of the USA

Or is it the USA that is the proxy of Israel?

You can't tell these days.

Could be both.

hm.

Is of proxy on the state level and leader on financial, media and religion.

I see.

jesus

JESUS TURNS THE OTHER CHEEK

ROMANS GAVE HIM A BIG O

Wtf

Only true cuckold can appreciate this religion.

No bully

I DEMAND MY SAFE SPACE!

Hi all!

Is this place revisionist?

@is not daijoubu Hello. This place is as you make it.

@is not daijoubu hi

I am an anti-revisionist

^

omg

Can ya'll give me your first thought on this image?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Lev_Trotsky.jpg

Ew

Revisionist filth

Neat

I'm in the right place

That is just me

@is not daijoubu How do u feel about hoxha

We need more bunkers

Srsly tho

@is not daijoubu

I haven't read much by hoxha yet

^^^^^

omg

@is not daijoubu you really need to be an anti-revisionist

I recommend

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hoxha/works/imp_rev/toc.htm @is not daijoubu

I'll bookmark it. I'm reading principals of management right now for my bourgie summer class

@BoleslawBierutLover http://proriv.ru/articles.shtml/podguzov?nauc_centr_1_eng

"Democratic centralism as a source of opportunism in the Communist Party"

ew

I CLAIM OWNERSHIP OVER THIS CHANNEL AND PROCLAIM MYSELF TO BE THE ONLY TRUE RULER!
ALL OF YOU TWINK, FAGS AND MORONS HAVE TO SUCK MY DICK

@Firefly who wrote this garbage

@BoleslawBierutLover Russian M-Ls

only if this server stays gay @((()))

I DON"T GIVE A SHIT AS LONG AS MY DICK GET SUCKED!

Fuck commies

fuck me harder please

Pedo sigil

today it looks like this

Communism will never and has never worked

or

https://i.imgur.com/NmqCgH1.png

@is not daijoubu saved

fucked this hottie last night

Not communism either

so a couple hundred years of capital rule is proof against communism?

I'm not sure you have real logic

@((())) can you not

can you KYS yourself?

no you

no you

go away dutchie

SUCK MY DICK BEFORE I PUT A HEX ON YOU!

You said the whole time humans were around there was no capitalism so no human nature

Communism wasn't around until then either

That doesn't establish either one as human nature

Fucking retard

you're not really making a point.

That picture makes no valid point

PEDO IMAGERY

Communism will never work

@((())) why is it even important?

who MAUGLI cartoon is pedophile

because it is affecting our children

why do you think we've got retarded left adn sjw and antifa movements

How does this channel deal with low energy revisionist raids?

they are victims of these pedos

@((())) you got them brainwashed from all directions.

Venezuela is one of the most resource rich countries in the world and after a couple decades of socialism they are eating cats and dogs and buying bread with wheelbarrows of money like in pre ww2 Germany

UNDRESSED KID RUBBING HIS GENITALS ON A BEAR (GAY BEAR)?

@is not daijoubu we make better propaganda and win them with arguments.

Communism has killed more than any ideology in its short history

20-50 million in soviet russia

more will die in next 20 years

50-80 million in mao's china

3 billion will die

3 billion

Really

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/16790175_376664656040061_1182672816080683008_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTQ1NDYyMzE0MjgyMzQyMTE0MA%3D%3D.2

Let me guess climate change

climate what?

did you niggers see what google did ?

along with every other science institution ?

in the last few months?