it used to be

@Firefly There are no leaders???

tbh anyone who defends social security is either leeching off of it or is a retard

FULL COMMUNISM

@BoleslawBierutLover everyone is a leader.

FULLER COMMUNISM

does anyone know at what time socialism began to mean socdem in america?

always

people called Freddy Roosevelt a socialist

because I assume it didn't in the earlier parts of 20th century and before

Huey Long got it too

@Firefly yes

have you read hoxha

I did.

why stop

>says stalin

@Sampuka Point?

The soviet union was the most democratic society in the history of the world

there were exploitation in the SU, but I guess he doesn't have to be tied to then system he was a leader of

sounds ironic but it isn't

@Sampuka There was not exploitation in the SU, workers got the value of their labor. A cut was tken for the running of the country

fyi

That is not exploitation

the way marx described it

@BoleslawBierutLover I read often Stalin in Russian. I think Hoxha did the same.

Hoxha is bae

well, saying the state needed the surplus for something doesn't justify it

He will roast all of you revisionists

@Sampuka Yes it does, becauser the workers ran the state

it isn't a surplus

that money doesn't go into the pockets of the directors

Stalin made the same amount of money as the average doctor

but the workers aren't one person

You'd think a system that great would allow dissent from the workers

what if one person didn't agree with it

@Timo))) It did

There was plenty of self critiscism

Yet they had to keep them walled in and away from us products

not all kinds of dissent though

Yeah