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Why would i send over 200 dollars for something i cant see
buy last week and today you're 50% profit
COMRAD LAIKA YOU'RE BACK FROM THE DEAD
@Rodolfo Graziani name of the friend?
seems 100 percent real
@everyone
You're all a bunch of peasent niggers
Fuck leftypol
It's been real. Auf Wiedersehen.
i like how this turned into regular pol
So brave.
>dope
Did a mod ban those shits?
I could drag slime like that so hard.
Nothing but a human-shaped biofilm with the rudiments of a personality.
>TFW Trump is a shabos goy who is cucked by the Jews.
Ok, seriously, are there any Communists or Marxists in this server? Serious question.
Okay, now ask your actual question.
I'd like to discuss policy with one. As in Marxist Policy and Communism as its Idealistic end.
I doubt it.
What are you wanting to discuss?
I'm wondering how Communism can work, considering it is based on an Ideal and an Ideal cannot exist within reality, and how equality can be acheived considering Nature does not create equally.
Because that view of nature is pseudoscience and irrelevant, partly
Explain how it is please.
*grabs popcorn*
I need to know what you actually mean by that first.
Nature does not create equally. As in, people?
Phenomenon?
Matter itself?
Anything.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Grand, then we are on the same page to start with sir.
So the reason it is pseudoscience is because it's just not true. Nature creates itself equally. It is in constant equilibrium with itself otherwise it would not function and nothing would exist.
And everything that functions within nature functions on delicate equilibriums itself
Now in terms of people, human beings, it's true, we are not created equal in any situation anywhere, unless we were actual clones of the same cell.
That is not equality. Just because something can function, does not mean it is equal. The size of planets, gravitational forces, the evolution creatures based on unequal differences and tendencies; these things are not equal but all exist within Natural ballance.
They all have balances of themselves
It's all self-similar to itself
Yes, but not equality.
Equality, so that's a very human term.
Definitely applies more to human beings than natural phenomena
A thing cannot be compared to itself. That is simply not conducive of the term "comparison".
Put it this way, the things that make the universe function on a vast scale are the same things that make it function on the smallest scale.
A thing *is*, and that is all, to compare it, is to look at another thing that simply *is*.
It all works the same way everywhere.
A different galaxy does not have different physics than ours.
That cannot be proven, nor disproven for that matter, therefore, that cannot be used as an arguing point, for it is of the unknown.
We can predict where the Andromeda galaxy is going to be in 4 billion years within a respectable margin of error.
It's going to be in the Milky Way.
Now, if it really takes this much analysis of the common tongue to discuss a man made process of economic theory, what would make it work dealing with the average man that we have already established is not created equally across the board and can therfore not be ensured an equal capability of understanding Idealism itself, and therefore, the notion of Communism?
The small scale โ large scale
^ bullshit.
And just because we know where a thing *is* does not mean we know *how* a thing is.
Quantum physics doesn't work the same as classical physics.
And let's be civil here gentlemen, no need to use profanity.
Quantum physics determines classical physics before classical physics even commits energy to work, son.
It's the smaller scale
It runs the larger scale.
It's the engine of the universe.
But it doesn't work like the larger scale works
It's like short term memory vs long term memory
That's because it powers the larger scale.
What does this have to do with Marxism
It's literally the math of the math.
Short term memory doesn't work the same as long term memory
It doesn't.
But it's the smaller scale of memory
It has nothing to do with Marxism, this guy just wants to talk about nothing and I don't know why I'm bothering.
Please gentlemen, can we get back to the topic at hand?
I'm not the one talking about nothing
You're making arguments that dont make sense
But acting like they do
I would love to discuss why Marxism can work among everyday people.
Please do
All ears.
It's a very populist philosophy. It easily appeals to normal working people.
It does. But appeal to a large amount doesn't make it true.
If you actually talk to someone about forming together with other working people and voting the bastards out of office, you will grab some ears.
And Marxism is simply the Conflict Theory, it doesn't actual *work*, it simply is an analysis of Sociology. Communism, is the debate of whether or not it can work.
"Truth" in this case, revolves around something entirely man-made: economies.
Democracy, in this case, determines the truth.
People need to be motivated by fear.
I'd contest that.
There is a fear here.
Fear and procreation
There is procreation as well.
No you need to convince them they're dying
Democracy is also man-made. Are you going with naturalism?
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