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2017-07-25 08:24:37 UTC

Marxism simply focuses on the Conflict aspect of human and social interaction, nothing more.

2017-07-25 08:25:10 UTC

Not at all.

2017-07-25 08:25:33 UTC

Sir, that is exactly what is specified in Marx's works.

2017-07-25 08:26:22 UTC

I think he was responding to my question

2017-07-25 08:26:41 UTC

It revolves around Class Conflict in Industrialized Society. Its offshoot, Feminism, revolves around Conflict of the Sexes.

2017-07-25 08:26:41 UTC

They won't use their full potential unless they have a sense of urgency.

2017-07-25 08:26:46 UTC

Cite the passage, please?

2017-07-25 08:26:58 UTC

The whole book of Das Kapital?

2017-07-25 08:27:08 UTC
2017-07-25 08:27:17 UTC

Humanity

2017-07-25 08:27:26 UTC

That is human nature

2017-07-25 08:27:26 UTC

Yeah, your name says it all.

2017-07-25 08:27:33 UTC

@Deleted User this is true

2017-07-25 08:27:51 UTC

Human nature ranges from loving to asshole.

2017-07-25 08:27:56 UTC

Kindness isn't motivating

2017-07-25 08:27:59 UTC

A lot of it is choice.

2017-07-25 08:28:05 UTC

People don't care about kindness.

2017-07-25 08:28:07 UTC

Human nature is self-preservation

2017-07-25 08:28:13 UTC

If you only feel motivated by being an asshole, you are a degenerate.

2017-07-25 08:28:22 UTC

The nature of life is self preservation

2017-07-25 08:28:29 UTC

That has nothing to do with anything.

2017-07-25 08:28:29 UTC

No, Human Nature is to be a predator, anything else is learned from interaction with civilization.

2017-07-25 08:28:47 UTC

Exactly

2017-07-25 08:29:02 UTC

Yes, exactly, meaning you are a degenerate on civilization.

2017-07-25 08:29:06 UTC

Two things on a person's mind is kill or rape

2017-07-25 08:29:07 UTC

Like a tumor.

2017-07-25 08:29:22 UTC

I wouldn't say "kill or rape" that's a bit odd.

2017-07-25 08:29:31 UTC

He's fucking autistic.

2017-07-25 08:29:34 UTC

You can't work with them, there will always be someone who wants to destroy you

2017-07-25 08:29:37 UTC

Food, Shelter, Sex.

2017-07-25 08:29:42 UTC

No

2017-07-25 08:29:57 UTC

Yes, that's base animalistic psychology.

2017-07-25 08:30:00 UTC

Ethno National socialists exist everywhere

2017-07-25 08:30:07 UTC

Exactly

2017-07-25 08:30:10 UTC

And you shouldn't.

2017-07-25 08:30:14 UTC

And they're like that

2017-07-25 08:30:17 UTC

Im not one

2017-07-25 08:30:21 UTC

Im an anarchist

2017-07-25 08:30:30 UTC

National Socialism is based in Ethno centrism, no need for redundencies.

2017-07-25 08:30:32 UTC

But I can identify a problem in an iedology

2017-07-25 08:30:42 UTC

Why are you espousing their shit then

2017-07-25 08:30:58 UTC

Any ideology based off kindness will just be met by a psychopath who wants to take advantage of others

2017-07-25 08:31:13 UTC

Hmmm

2017-07-25 08:31:20 UTC

Ever thought of being rationally nice?

2017-07-25 08:31:23 UTC

And he'll take advantage of the weak

2017-07-25 08:31:32 UTC

I'm not like this

2017-07-25 08:31:34 UTC

Hold on now, I'm a National Socialist, and I'm trying to act civil here. Infact, the only person here not partaking is shitposting or personal attacks is me; the National Socialist.

2017-07-25 08:31:35 UTC

Saying sorry after telling someone no?

2017-07-25 08:31:38 UTC

Ive seen people like that

2017-07-25 08:32:02 UTC

>Anarchism
>Appealing to Hooman Nature

2017-07-25 08:32:09 UTC

No, don't worry

2017-07-25 08:32:15 UTC

He's being a devil's advocate.

2017-07-25 08:32:22 UTC

He just didn't make that particularly clear.

2017-07-25 08:32:26 UTC

His picture is literally the devil..

2017-07-25 08:32:33 UTC

Mean :p

2017-07-25 08:32:35 UTC

Fairs

2017-07-25 08:32:44 UTC

Can we just have a @Deleted User vs @MrSally on Marxism

2017-07-25 08:32:58 UTC

Do it

2017-07-25 08:33:03 UTC

Anyway, let us continue then.

2017-07-25 08:33:18 UTC

I don't know very much about Marxism. I was more interested in talks of communism.

2017-07-25 08:34:11 UTC

Communism is the culmination of Marxism into the Utopian Ideal. I would imagine that one would need to understand the fundemental values that lead to Communism to discuss it. Not trying to sound rude.

2017-07-25 08:34:38 UTC

I'm somewhat post-Marx because he wasn't right about absolutely everything ever, though his prototranshumanist views on technology and post-scarcity are some of my favorites.

2017-07-25 08:35:02 UTC

Reading the Communist Manifesto before or without reading Das Kaptial is a bit off, I'd say.

2017-07-25 08:35:55 UTC

Unless you have a different take on Communism, to which I'd like to hear, sir.

2017-07-25 08:36:05 UTC

Yes, I understand class conflict and all of that

2017-07-25 08:36:16 UTC

That all has to happen, and it all is happening.

2017-07-25 08:36:30 UTC

I hope firefly hasn't been advertising on reddit

2017-07-25 08:37:22 UTC

I see communism as pretty self-evident. I think advanced technology is all it will take for us to be at that point.

2017-07-25 08:38:13 UTC

To have a complete utopia where all things are equal?

2017-07-25 08:38:30 UTC

I don't think it will be possible for the bourgeois or the capitalists to control all of that technology for too long, before people realize they are being bled dry when everything they need to live perfect lives is readily there.

2017-07-25 08:38:35 UTC

@Deleted User wanna vc in marxist talks and talk about this?

2017-07-25 08:38:46 UTC

Absolutely, technology is the equalizer.

2017-07-25 08:39:15 UTC

Elaborate please.

2017-07-25 08:39:48 UTC

Production technology will reach a point where nobody will ever need anything to survive again.

2017-07-25 08:40:08 UTC

Food?

2017-07-25 08:40:59 UTC

And someone will have to produce these items. Unless you are talking about some totally mechanized world where humans subsist in tubes.

2017-07-25 08:41:09 UTC

Bro we're literally going to have Star Trek-style replicators. This is actually a thing we will have in the future. Food won't be a problem.

2017-07-25 08:41:24 UTC

But greed will.

2017-07-25 08:41:35 UTC

Greed won't even be a trait that shows up in humans anymore.

2017-07-25 08:41:43 UTC

You cannot remove the Nature Factor from a predatory animal.

2017-07-25 08:41:45 UTC

This is the next stage in our evolution we're talking about here.

2017-07-25 08:41:57 UTC

Greed will be seen as a defect, and people who have it won't have power.

2017-07-25 08:42:55 UTC

Who will decide this? And only the most egalitarian few actually possess such selfless traits, you'd need to genocide 90% of mankind.

2017-07-25 08:43:31 UTC

Unfortunately.

2017-07-25 08:43:50 UTC

naaaah just kidding, it would probably be more like 10%.

2017-07-25 08:44:03 UTC

No, it will be like 90%.

2017-07-25 08:44:14 UTC

The population of completely incurable psychopaths out there is not that big.

2017-07-25 08:44:24 UTC

It's evolution we're talking about, we evolved as predators.

2017-07-25 08:44:36 UTC

Into not-predators.

2017-07-25 08:45:10 UTC

Technology removes the need for stalking our prey for weeks

2017-07-25 08:45:19 UTC

It turns it into a leisure activity, actually.

2017-07-25 08:45:51 UTC

You mean White people have. And by White I mean Northern Hemispheric races such as Asians and Europeans, those groups that invented such egalitarian concepts. The Equitorial races are not as evolved, and cannot be any time soon. That's Nature.

2017-07-25 08:46:10 UTC

They've existed and evolved just as long as we have.

2017-07-25 08:46:32 UTC

In different ways for differnent purposes, all predatory.

2017-07-25 08:46:56 UTC

Not even all whites are egalitarian, only the privileged few.

2017-07-25 08:47:00 UTC

Prove it?

2017-07-25 08:47:08 UTC

That black people are all predatory?

2017-07-25 08:47:18 UTC

Go to Africa.

2017-07-25 08:47:23 UTC

No, prove your shit.

2017-07-25 08:48:20 UTC

Crime demographics, the Nations in Africa, the actual way of the 3rd world. Have you travelled outside of a white nation?

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