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2017-07-19 23:07:44 UTC

^

2017-07-19 23:08:27 UTC

So why am I "fucking stupid"

2017-07-19 23:09:10 UTC

because you don't understand what racism is, you don't understand what the root cause of unemployment and decreased wages is, and you support a party that is against your interests because of reactionary rhetoric

2017-07-19 23:09:26 UTC

I do understand what racism is

2017-07-19 23:09:39 UTC

You make your own definition of racism to fit your agenda

2017-07-19 23:10:28 UTC

You can call it ethnicism or whatever the fuck you want to call it, most people call it racism

2017-07-19 23:10:39 UTC

It's discrimination based off of ethnicity

2017-07-19 23:10:57 UTC

but they arent discriminating because of ethnicity

2017-07-19 23:11:12 UTC

It goes for any foreigners who take the jobs of working class people in that country

2017-07-19 23:11:27 UTC

They are against mass immigration from any country because it denies citizens of their jobs

2017-07-19 23:11:54 UTC

no, they want to blame the foreigners to make people forget that the real reason is capitalism

2017-07-19 23:13:14 UTC

How are they racist

2017-07-19 23:13:25 UTC

For not wanting outside non-citizens to take the jobs of citizens

2017-07-19 23:13:34 UTC

do you think the situation for workers will get better if you kicked out all the foreigners?

2017-07-19 23:13:44 UTC

>when you want to drink some water, but fuccing nestle bought the whole reserve of Africas clean water

2017-07-19 23:13:50 UTC

do you think companies would pay people more or that working rights would get better?

2017-07-19 23:14:27 UTC

When traditonal british street businesses are replaced by halal donner kebab shops

2017-07-19 23:14:29 UTC

will it help the fight for working rights if we just go and attack our working class comrades because they're from a different country?

2017-07-19 23:14:32 UTC

Then I have a problem

2017-07-19 23:14:46 UTC

For the sake of the dialogue, we're all concerned about the same thing, the working class.

The immigration isn't 'the problem' it's that the jobs will be lost due to the lack of organization the immigrants possess. They're easy scabs. Immigration makes perfect sense to business perspectives.

Why hire union when I can out source?

The symptom of the problem is the job loss, which is in itself, another problem.

2017-07-19 23:15:12 UTC

^

2017-07-19 23:15:14 UTC

Capitalists love immigrants

2017-07-19 23:15:14 UTC

Mostly that

2017-07-19 23:15:22 UTC

cheap labor

2017-07-19 23:15:22 UTC

They love them because they work cheap

2017-07-19 23:15:25 UTC

the only way the workers can improve their condition in life is to fight together, with solidarity, against the ruling class

2017-07-19 23:15:40 UTC

^

2017-07-19 23:15:46 UTC

h o w a r e u k i p r a c i s t

2017-07-19 23:16:17 UTC

because they use racist rhetoric, because they blame immigrants for the problems of capitalism, because they use immigrants as scapegoats

2017-07-19 23:16:59 UTC

what racist rhetoric?

2017-07-19 23:17:22 UTC

And not wanting immigrants in your country to work is Anti-Capitalism

2017-07-19 23:17:36 UTC

its basically >hurr durr blacks are wrothless lololol

2017-07-19 23:17:53 UTC

no, socialism is about the international working class

2017-07-19 23:18:19 UTC

to fight together with working class comrades across the world in a common struggle

2017-07-19 23:18:33 UTC

not to be divided by national boundaries against each other

2017-07-19 23:19:05 UTC

Make unionization part of requirements for work visas.

2017-07-19 23:19:15 UTC

then why did socialist germany and the soviet union build a wall in berlin

2017-07-19 23:20:31 UTC

because the economic conditions in West Germany were better due to most of the Eastern Bloc still being destroyed after WWII, plus most of the world and therefore the resources and trade of the world were under Western control

2017-07-19 23:20:49 UTC

So why did they build a wall

2017-07-19 23:20:57 UTC

If socialists were for open borders

2017-07-19 23:21:11 UTC

which created a migration crisis between East and West Germany where East Germany could not survive as many people were leaving for the West, which threatened the socialist project

2017-07-19 23:21:37 UTC

So they kept people in against their will

2017-07-19 23:22:16 UTC

mmm, how is a person's will defined? The Americans are quite good at making propaganda

2017-07-19 23:22:23 UTC

better than anyone else by far

2017-07-19 23:22:35 UTC

So, they kept people in against their wishes of not being in

2017-07-19 23:22:49 UTC

@Ulstรจr-Scotch This is how a real man eats.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/337373748204404736/JPEG_20170719_191754.jpg

2017-07-19 23:23:00 UTC

wtf is that

2017-07-19 23:23:00 UTC

Mashed potato is amazing

2017-07-19 23:23:07 UTC

A bit of gravy over that son

2017-07-19 23:23:08 UTC

mmm

2017-07-19 23:23:16 UTC

gravy is for plebs

2017-07-19 23:23:20 UTC

eat that shit plain ๐Ÿ…ฑ

2017-07-19 23:23:24 UTC

It's not really a matter of wanting to be in or not be in

2017-07-19 23:23:27 UTC

@Horse Shmeat Fried chicken, rigatoni w/ cheese, biscuit and garlic mashed taters.

2017-07-19 23:23:31 UTC

east berlin fried bologna

2017-07-19 23:23:36 UTC

the Soviet Union was made up of poor countries even before the war

2017-07-19 23:23:47 UTC

they actually ate that

2017-07-19 23:23:59 UTC

Fried bologna is good af.

2017-07-19 23:24:08 UTC

yes

2017-07-19 23:24:12 UTC

meanwhile Western Europe was quite rich and then they were supported both by their colonial and neocolonial projects, as well as by the U.S. directly

2017-07-19 23:24:25 UTC

its nice with ketchup

2017-07-19 23:24:33 UTC

fried bologna

2017-07-19 23:24:35 UTC

wtf

2017-07-19 23:24:41 UTC

where am I right now

2017-07-19 23:24:44 UTC

I hate this planet

2017-07-19 23:24:47 UTC

east berlin

2017-07-19 23:24:59 UTC

@Horse Shmeat You don't know what's good for you.

2017-07-19 23:25:03 UTC

western europe was rich as fuck because of capitalism

2017-07-19 23:25:11 UTC

Yes, because of their colonial projects

2017-07-19 23:25:14 UTC

pop tarts are my hearts desire

2017-07-19 23:25:26 UTC

pop tarts are what a real ni๐Ÿ…ฑ๐Ÿ…ฑa eats

2017-07-19 23:25:37 UTC

m8 you want state-built iphones

2017-07-19 23:25:41 UTC

Britain was rich because of their colonial exploitation of much of the world, similar as France, the Netherlands, etc.

2017-07-19 23:26:03 UTC

i want everything to be state owned to be honest

2017-07-19 23:26:10 UTC

when your own people make less and less and become poorer and poorer, you need an export market to the rest of the world to sap their wealth

2017-07-19 23:26:13 UTC

idk why

2017-07-19 23:26:17 UTC

I would use 2000 labor vouchers to get to your heart ๐Ÿ…ฑ

2017-07-19 23:26:37 UTC

The state will keep you warm at night.

2017-07-19 23:26:43 UTC

"state"

2017-07-19 23:26:46 UTC

I'm triggered

2017-07-19 23:26:47 UTC

people were poor as fuck in the soviet union too

2017-07-19 23:26:52 UTC

I just feel so attacked right now

2017-07-19 23:27:02 UTC

People in the USSR had the best sex ever.

2017-07-19 23:27:14 UTC

but yugoslavs were the richest communists ever

2017-07-19 23:27:20 UTC

praise tito

2017-07-19 23:27:35 UTC

yeah but the Ukrainian anarchists had the coolest flag

2017-07-19 23:27:39 UTC

eat that one, tankies

2017-07-19 23:27:42 UTC

Not to start some sectarIan shit butFucking anrakiddies are the ones making Marxists look retarded with their utopian bullshit

2017-07-19 23:27:42 UTC

what the West did was to take the raw materials of the developing world for their own, to destroy the primitive industry in industrializing countries, and to use those raw resources to develop their own domestic industry, which was then sold to the upper and middle class of the developing classes, stealing the wealth of those countries and adding to the wealth of the Western capitalists

2017-07-19 23:28:18 UTC

Eg-libsoc rants and badmouse on yt

2017-07-19 23:28:27 UTC

death to those who stand in the way of the freedom of the working class

2017-07-19 23:28:29 UTC

>when the soviet union paid pepsi in naval ships

2017-07-19 23:28:33 UTC

yeet

2017-07-19 23:28:58 UTC

the text on the ukranian an-com flag

2017-07-19 23:29:30 UTC

you have to remember that Russia, Poland, China, etc. were all very poor countries before the revolution because they did not take part in this colonialism and industrialization, which meant that socialism in those countries had two tasks: to develop the country in the way that capitalism had developed in the West, as well as to do it an equitable way

2017-07-19 23:29:40 UTC

this is pretty good tbh

2017-07-19 23:29:42 UTC

the editing is nice

2017-07-19 23:30:16 UTC

they had to do this without exploiting the natural resources of developing countries or to exploit their population, which is much more difficult than the capitalist method of development

2017-07-19 23:30:29 UTC

ร–calan shouldn't have left Marxism Leninism

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