**Monarchy > Democracy**

But I'm not going to immediately devalue your opinion

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1) The law of unity and the fight between contradictions

hello friends

SMASH FASCISM

a socialist economy provides elimination of greed

is this the commie discord?

2) The law of quantity turning into quality

But does socialism not attract greed?

national socialism is the best socialiasm

Venezuela an example

it gives the product to the worker and insentive to work

Same as the USSR

why this right winter is not in gulag yet

venezula is 60 percent privatized

3) The law of negation of the negation

@Ulstèr-Scotch Here were 3 laws of dialectics

Leftists choose not to have children because they'd be white

I believe the market and the worker both deserve to be free

as do we

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@Garlic the Soviet Its a free channel.

workers deserve to earn the product of their labour and equally distribute it to the masses

From an economic stand point, people should be able to persue their business goals

no freedom withoug gulags

in socialism people can still get far through labour if they are hardworking

karl zedong stalin said this 100 years ago

Why should the state force the worker to distribute their produce?

@Garlic the Soviet That is true. You can always establish gulag in the theory section.

WE WAS KANGS 'FO THEM RIGHT-WINGERS FUCKED US UP

Is that not violating the freedom of the worker?

because if you horde the produce then you're just going to have excess

which why would you want that

Excess you can sell

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?

If you sell at a high price, people will look to cheaper options, eliminating your profits

This is leftism.

So people are forced to sell their goods at a lower cost

@.... libertarian got triggered by the incoming Fascists

Selling what you make isn't greed

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Careful

Nah, I'm on his side. 😈

"masculinity is oppressive" This is leftism.

so this channel basically becomes trollfest

Could make a lot more sense by sticking National infront of your ideology

SMASH FASCISM

Well, it's essentially a melting pot of all different ideologies.

@.... that is why we have to be careful. Every libertarian is a future Fascist.

free market libertarian - definitely

I'm not trolling, I'd like to discuss with you without a motion of hostility

This is leftism.

Making you a political commissart

@Firefly
It depends.

@Ulstèr-Scotch in socialism if you were to horde it and sell it it would be considered greed because its not helping the market

that's collectivization

But is selling your produce really greed?

If you work hard to produce a product and sell it, is it greed?

@petit bourgeois

This is leftism.

i think this is pretty much spamming now

This is leftism.

but whatever

yeah its getting hard

@@Garlic the Soviet
This is pretty much what larger servers are like.

i'm tryin to explain here

i ll just mute this channel

I'm trying to listen as well

Please go on sir

This is leftism. Zhe's a famous left-wing muslim activist in Sweden.

so wages in socialism aren't an insentive anymore in a socialist econ

This is leftism.

Who let in all the spammers?!

wages are elimated basically

because the workers own means

This is leftism.

This is leftism.

@checkers
Uh, you're not helping this chat.

the produce is given to the market or the state in which it goes through economic syndicates

just go to <#308995540782284817>

It's your role to shut up and listen as I speak.

Ah, so you are a syndicalist

well im marxist leninist

i think the state should have distirubtion of the goods

ration them and shit

Leftism is 100% identity politics. If you disagree you're a wicked white male.

But would that not cause mass starvation in cases of greed in government?

socialism is a very complex idealogy

Identity politics is not complex

nahnah

the state is a product of the dictatorship of the proliteriat

basically the state is the worker and works for the benefit of the worker

Of course it's complex. So complex in fact, you get the Economic Calculation Problem. 👌😂

Socialism is identity politics, the praxis of socialism is screaming FUCK HETEROSEXUAL CIS WHITE MALES while chimping out

@Ulstèr-Scotch Did you read the laws? Nature of Logic? Capital?

So, I'd like to ask, in all attempts of a socialist state, why have they always failed?

@.... thats in capitalism not socialism