Even calling it a mixed economy would be a huge stretch.

It goes as far as subsidies to farmers and bank bailouts (which I personally disagree with).

But state planning? You're lying to yourself.

It's a shit economy, that's what it is

The Jewish Chinese shadow government of America are going to crash the economy tomorrow

🤞

woah

@carlton™ Government in USA controls every fucking breath.

price fixing is state planning and has always proven to be shit

Do you live in the US, Firefly?

Because that's false.

Yes

Businesses run thegovernment and banks

Go back to Ukraine then if you hate how the US government is controlling your every fucking breath which they're not.

Welfare and benefits will keep being raised until the govt is unable to provide. The people will get angry, because they think they're entitled to it, and anarchy will attempt to be made. History repeats itself.

The myth of unlimited growth.

@carlton™ I will go if your government sponsors revolution in Russia.

Saying that America is a planned economy is just laughable. You'd have to be extremely uneducated on US economics to have that opinion.

More like the myth of equality

^ that to

What part of the government coordinates central planning exactly?

Can you name the effects of the last American Five-Year Plan?

I thought not.

Or the glorious Great Leap Forward

That turned out wonderful

those birds had it coming

@carlton™ you can't even sell medicine in here, because government controls market in benefit of local corporations. Good medicine is not present right away.

The birds were obvious capitalists spies

Mao had it right

You're right. America is a planned economy. Thanks for opening my eyes.

Idk, I think the backyard steel foundries were the best idea

I think you just don't know what a planned economy is, honestly.

Flexibility while adhering to codes and basic standards is what I consider to be a good rule of thumb for an economy

Same with food industry.

Lmao this conversation is amazing

You do not know what a planned economy is.

Government controls also chemical industry.

You still don't know what a planned economy is.

controlling inflation

Calling America even a mixed economy is a bit of a stretch.

It's not nearly as free as it used to be

Definitely not. But nowhere near a planned economy.

America is more decentralised than any other western 1st world economy tbh

Well most I guess.

@carlton™ few adjustments will be made slowly.

@Timo))) Exactly, and now because of less freedom in the economy, we're expecting a total market crash soon.

oh believe it

Government should just stay the fuck out of the economy.

Nah

2008 should have been the big crash, they botched it by bailing them out

An investor recently made a 261 million dollar bet that the economy will crash by October

Central planning 😩 😫 😖 💦 💦

Adjust minimum wages for inflation, ensure the rights of workers, give subsidies to farmers, that's all.

Regulate some shit.

All you need fam 👌

I keep telling my parents to invest in gold, silver, bitcoin, something but they won't listen

Nah mate we need them 5 year plans

fuck off

No

communism? 😡 disgusting

wonder how bitcoin will play out during a crash

die or grow, no idea

IM GONNA GO TAKE A MASSIVE SHIT AND ENJOY MY AMERICAN FREEDOM TO TELL YOU IM TAKING A MASSIVE SHIT

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@carlton™ Basically everything you just listed, but also with some basic welfare programs that cannot be taken advantage of

This is why this should be an American server.

Ahahaha

bunch of faggots just banned me for this meme

I prefer safety nets rather than welfare benefits

I agree with the concept of a welfare state but in practice it doesn't really work.

they called me transphobic

i said it was a hoke

out of a job for 1 year max we might help you, longer than that you need to adjust your job expectations

they compared me to a nazi joking about gassing the jews

That's a fake graph lol

USSR remained second to the United States in industrial production.

@carlton™ Has welfare been perfected? It seems like once it's made the government only want people to get on welfare, not off of it.

But the indsutrial growth was still impressive.

Where'd you get banned from? @Your Mother hashtagFBPE

Yeah, the limited welfare state created by FDR was great for lifting a country out of poverty. But once you give people welfare, you can't take it back.

It's never a temporary measure.

It can ONLY get more bloated. Never smaller.

USA should have had a revolution

That is a good argument against welfare itself, just like how communists don't realize that when they say "communism has never been tried" they're contradicting themselves

Because then socialism wouldn't be sabotaged by a country getting invaded by the usa

nothing is more permanent than a temporary government program

Communism really never has been tried as it's described in utopian communist literature. But that's fucking utopian communist literature.

Exactly, it has never achieved that point because it _cannot_ achieve that state

They advocate a stateless society, but require the means of a state to maintain the system.

It's anarchism, but at the same time somehow not?

No

Most convoluted fucking ideology ever.

Socialism is the transition stage to fullcommunism

In fullcommunism there is no money, state, or classes.

Which doesn't happen, because it's impossible

As described by Lenin to legitimize the dictatorship of the proletariat, lol.

Really kind of dumb the whole "socialism is a means to communism".

People naturally become better than others, you can't have a classless society last like that