Message from @Deleted User

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2017-07-25 17:07:35 UTC  

out of a job for 1 year max we might help you, longer than that you need to adjust your job expectations

2017-07-25 17:07:36 UTC  

they compared me to a nazi joking about gassing the jews

2017-07-25 17:07:41 UTC  

That's a fake graph lol

2017-07-25 17:07:53 UTC  

USSR remained second to the United States in industrial production.

2017-07-25 17:07:59 UTC  

@carlton™ Has welfare been perfected? It seems like once it's made the government only want people to get on welfare, not off of it.

2017-07-25 17:08:01 UTC  

But the indsutrial growth was still impressive.

2017-07-25 17:08:08 UTC  

Where'd you get banned from? @Your Mother hashtagFBPE

2017-07-25 17:08:28 UTC  

Yeah, the limited welfare state created by FDR was great for lifting a country out of poverty. But once you give people welfare, you can't take it back.

2017-07-25 17:08:32 UTC  

It's never a temporary measure.

2017-07-25 17:08:38 UTC  

It can ONLY get more bloated. Never smaller.

2017-07-25 17:08:50 UTC  

USA should have had a revolution

2017-07-25 17:09:06 UTC  

That is a good argument against welfare itself, just like how communists don't realize that when they say "communism has never been tried" they're contradicting themselves

2017-07-25 17:09:08 UTC  

Because then socialism wouldn't be sabotaged by a country getting invaded by the usa

2017-07-25 17:09:09 UTC  

nothing is more permanent than a temporary government program

2017-07-25 17:09:30 UTC  

Communism really never has been tried as it's described in utopian communist literature. But that's fucking utopian communist literature.

2017-07-25 17:09:54 UTC  

Exactly, it has never achieved that point because it _cannot_ achieve that state

2017-07-25 17:09:59 UTC  

They advocate a stateless society, but require the means of a state to maintain the system.

2017-07-25 17:10:05 UTC  

It's anarchism, but at the same time somehow not?

2017-07-25 17:10:09 UTC  

No

2017-07-25 17:10:12 UTC  

Most convoluted fucking ideology ever.

2017-07-25 17:10:21 UTC  

Socialism is the transition stage to fullcommunism

2017-07-25 17:10:32 UTC  

In fullcommunism there is no money, state, or classes.

2017-07-25 17:10:35 UTC  

Which doesn't happen, because it's impossible

2017-07-25 17:10:44 UTC  

As described by Lenin to legitimize the dictatorship of the proletariat, lol.

2017-07-25 17:10:58 UTC  

Really kind of dumb the whole "socialism is a means to communism".

2017-07-25 17:11:06 UTC  

People naturally become better than others, you can't have a classless society last like that

2017-07-25 17:11:08 UTC  

Only reason Lenin said that was to consolidate his system of governance.

2017-07-25 17:11:27 UTC  

How would you go about buying things in a communist state, @Deleted User

2017-07-25 17:11:27 UTC  

Nobody ever gains power with the intent of relinquishing it.

2017-07-25 17:11:43 UTC  

u wouldnt u get it magicaly lol

2017-07-25 17:11:48 UTC  

a lenin fairy gives it to u

2017-07-25 17:12:00 UTC  

I always hear either bartering or self sufficiency

2017-07-25 17:12:17 UTC  

a disorganized commune (not a state) somehow provides for everyones needs automatically with no coordination from a bureaucracy

2017-07-25 17:12:38 UTC  

Whenever you confront communists about how illogical that is, they respond with something vague like "there would be SOME form of democracy to determine everything".

2017-07-25 17:12:42 UTC  

But never anything concrete or logical.

2017-07-25 17:12:49 UTC  

I've heard horror stories about people getting a ''free car'' in the S union

2017-07-25 17:12:58 UTC  

Good reagan joke about it

2017-07-25 17:13:43 UTC  

I always hear about communism giving free houses to people. I can't help but think of Section 8 horror stories

2017-07-25 17:14:18 UTC  

Is anyone here familiar with section 8?

2017-07-25 17:14:28 UTC  

in chicago right?