We need a Neoliberal vs Neoconservative discussion

Later he had an abortion and grew a moustache.

@Kazimir Malevich do not disrespect Sheikh Stalin <:varg:521372050225627156>

three mistakes stalin made: Supporting Isreal's Creating, making homosexuality a crime, Not the best feminist

*feminist*

I'm sure that what revisionism means literally depends on the person, so the whole word has been rendered fucking meaningless with the overusage of that term for the past 60 years

Stalin was the original Yikes-man

As of now yes

imagine thinking that feminism is meaningful in socialist practice lmao

But revisionism is supposed to refer to the productive forces line

@Xinyue how is maoism revisionism? it literally has new theory incorporated, and i 100% agree that the three world's theory was absolute garbage

most maoists disavow it

or any sane one

It's revising class struggle out of Marxism

Apparently when everyone is already equal minorities and women still need more rights for "equality"

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@Enigmatic★Chromatic how is people's war anti-class struggle

what

Maoism, funnily enough, isn't actually about Mao or what Mao did

I don't know how you came to that conclusion loser

no i thought you said

that people's war is anti-class struggle

No

im like wtf

Putting productive forces over class struggle is revisionism

Khrushchev era USSR laid a whole framework for how to reach communism - yes, the actual non-money, non-central state, non-class society - in 20 years. It was unrealistic, but they wrote thousands of pages on this and unlike the Hoxhaists and the other subpar authors, it was pure theoretical substance that accounted for the emergence of cybernetics, atomic energy, the space age, automation and artificial intelligence. I can't think of a work more relevant for Marxists in 2018 than, say, *Fundamentals of Marxism-Leninism* etc.

xinu is winning

He literally had market reform, and communism in one country is impossible without the destruction of capitalist powers

the rejection of cybernetics is the #1 reason i hate the USSR

Have you read any of the Khrushchev era theoretical works?

A single one?

Yes i have

actually

which one?

I mean I generally agree with a position adjacent to cyber communism

muh system can't exist when other systems exist hurr durr we should try my system - le commie <:brainlet:508484031625691156>

But he still undermined communism in the long term by focusing on production yields and industrialization

Fundamentals of Marxism-Leninism is the chief work of that period

Marx was the worst thing to happen to Socialism

oh fuck off

😄

Are you a Marxist Leninist?

he is a nazbol

bet

Doubt it

ML, probably at this point, and a staunch internationalist

Yeah

Internationalist gang

Non-nationalist role

destroy reactionary spooks

xinu is nazbol

Nation is a historical and linguistic construct, yes, and real, but to found politics around it and not the interdevelopment of nations is cancer

Plus the concept of the nation state loses validity in a social and cultural sense if communism is achieved

It's easily toppled

yeah that is why communist states are withering away and Nation States still exist

Normalizing Soviet Cybernetics, and for Kruschev i have read on the cult of personality and Soviet policy in the international stage.

*Easy*

btw if i'm not mistaken, Loser's avi is from 1955 and the beginning of the Khrushchev era

not much, still learning.

let me date that

March 25, 1964

"interdevelopment of Nations", like USSR which everyone wanted to immediately split away from as soon as they could

is the exact date

"interdevelopment of Nations" like Yugoslavia

> and for Kruschev i have read on the cult of personality and Soviet policy in the international stage.

this is pretty little, that's just his speech on Stalin - it says NOTHING about the socio-economic, philosophical and theoretical position that consolidated around USSR in his time

> March 25, 1964

ah, my bad, the twilight of Khrushchev era then

Well the splits happened because of social imperialism and revisionism

Communists can never get Human Nature

oh ffs

that is your real enemy

not the Bourgeoisie

Hyooman Nateshure

I think that Marxists get it better

ofc u think that

ur a commie

dafuq

the Stalinists and other barracks communists are in denial, but for most part Marx and Engels got it down

>hooman nature

The human nature argument is a thought terminating cliche

what even is stalinism

what

it's just Marxism-Leninism

Stalinism = ML as it developed in 1930s and 1940s

Engles.. le family should wither away with my system guy

Khrushchevism = ML as it developed in 1950s and 1960s

because that has worked great for American nogs

Read Mutual Aid @AdorableStormtrooper

there is no Khrushchevism or Stalinism as standalone ideologies, but they do represent distinct trends

social implications of your policies are always catastrophic

and you never learn

@Xinyue I guess so, but one cannot be "Stalinist"

@AdorableStormtrooper How so?

"Gorbachevism" though doesn't exist, because it literally broke away from ML

yeah

its just

capitalism

tbh

because there's no analysis from that angle, everything is about resources

money money money

extreme social democracy

@AdorableStormtrooper false