Again, we legit only have a 100 role limit, we HAVE to be somewhat generic, we cant make a role for every branch of hindu, or even every denom of christian

its impossible

Yeah then you have retards like "Soldiers of Odin".

Who embrace it.

nah we can have religous diversity, we dont need many ethnic roles

those can be generic

we can have religious diversity, but im not going to make roles that are stupidly specific, such as "Greek Paganism" then have 3 roles of 3 different branches of greek paganism

its stupid

its a waste of roles and nobody will even use them

maybe 1 person if were lucky

nah we can keep the ones here

just get rid of redundant

i combined nordic and germanic

we aren't really adding many

It's the same thing really.

It's like having West Slavic and East Slavic Paganism as different I guess.

people are more finicky with religion

West Slavs had different beliefs on dragons for example.

Different types of Hinduism, Islam and Paganism are big though

same with Christianity

of course, hence i said we can make a religious role whenever someone from that religion shows up, but to have so many religious roles that are currently not in use is a waste

I think if we reach that 100 limit

then we can worry about it

but roles aren't a huge issue

more people complain about there's not being there

than complain about too many

i had an 800 plus server

before

and it didn't even have a real topic

Wow.

this is kinda culture/relgion/ethnic focused

@Deleted User put a name on those "new roles" ... i have no clue what those do so im going to start deleting them when i see them, they barely even have perms on them

Why were there 4 Catholic roles tho.

retards

new role?

probably all the admins were making roles and werent checking what we already had

Lole.

yeah this was all a long time ago

@Deleted User theres 3 new roles, though i cant mess with the brown one

adolf stalin

https://gyazo.com/f3f8f26c1a603c828f23f6316e171170

just delete those

what is a mud asian

some of these roles

i dont even know what they are

this is why i just kept it at mongoloid and negroid

if you aren't Caucasian

There is an Arab minority in Iraq called like that, but I doubt it's them.

that's marsh arab

and isn't your role Chinoxu too specific

worse comes to worse we should just do Asian, Black, Med, Other White

@Deleted User would you prefer if stuff like "Shia and Sunni" were just like that, by them seleves? or have the role like "Muslim (Sunni)" ? if its the latter its easier to search for the wide religion to see all the denoms available, but it makes the roles bigger and look clunky, but it also has the perk of denoting what the religion of the denom is, for example some people might not know Sufi is muslim

muslim

ok, ill make all the religions be the "Religion (Denom)"

yeah most are already set up that way

@Deleted User chaoxianu isnt super specific, it refers to the koreans-chinese, which inhabit a lot of manchuria, aka it can be used on anyone up in the machurian region + korea

still specific just combine, altaic and sinic

@Deleted User most are setup that way, plus the other way, aka redundent, hence i asked which ones you wanted kept lol

originally what we did on the old med union was just use race names, for none Meds and nonWhites

unless it was hard, like Arab, Dravidian, Persian

What are the types of the Caucasoid/White race? I think there's Alpine, Nordic and others.

since they are Mongoloid/Negroid

and Abos and Bushmen really dont exsist

im going to delete pretty much every religious and ethnicity role and remake them its easier then looking for redundent shit since you cant search the role list

tbh we just used nigger 😉

oof

hold on dont do that yet

HMMMM

why?

the roles dont have any perms attached

You'd have to re-assign that to everyone.

Or ask inactive people what they want.

@National Trotskyist dont care, i can do that, it wont be hard

Oh.

its easier this way

and to readd the roles i can just check the audit log to see which roles need to be readded

@Deleted User why wait?

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

@㊀㊁㊂㊃㊄㊅㊆㊇㊈㊉ wanted to archieve them first, also we have tons of philosophy roles

we don't need those

every server has them, barely anyone knows about that shit

@Deleted User dont need to archive roles, the audit logs tracks which roles we had lol

yeah but it eventually gets buried

if you want i can just delete all the ethnic, religious, and political roles and remake them from scratch

just delete the philosophy ones

idk which are philosphy

ill do it, but what's the reason behind remaking them again?

also if we do, people will lose their ethnic roles

its easier then searching through this mess of a role list, if i delete them then readd them they are made in batches, so if i make all the religious, then the ethnic, then they will be grouped together

dont worry, ill readd roles by request

its not very hard

Philosophy roles? Like what?

Haven't seen any used here.

uh people are not going to want to ping and have to re go throug vetting though

i dont think its a good idea

lots of room could be created by getting rid of philsophy

we won't know whose med anymore

or what med they are

also the clan color thing seems to have been useless

@Deleted User

wtf are philosophy roles lol

@㊀㊁㊂㊃㊄㊅㊆㊇㊈㊉ lets not do it, itll be a huge headache

awww im honorary

❤

i dunno adolf stalin made tons of them when he made this place

Honorary med i guess?

@Deleted User they wont have to rego through vetting, it doesnt remove any perms

they can just request a roll when im done, if they dont then they dont

@㊀㊁㊂㊃㊄㊅㊆㊇㊈㊉ not a good idea, we do things via ethnicity here, and they won't request

i deleted the philosophy role

s

we should have more than enough room now

how many roles are there lol

Over 9000.

With a lot of duplicates.

at least we're doing this with under 100 members, it'd be hell otherwise

yes, hence do it now and not have to deal with it later

i know what im doing

Creators of Undertale released Deltarune. Graphics barely improved.

@☦ Victor Cti ☦ do you want any ethnic, religous, political roles?

@Cocaine want any religous role?

@Deleted User you want any?

@Drocsid

@Deleted User

@Deleted User

@Deleted User

@paul Fares

<@380064839969538049>

@Deleted User

<@339895727167766550>

@Roy Rogers McFreely

@prussia

@stedly

@Deleted User

@Help

@uooqs

<@409474492801351700>

@Vassili

@Deleted User

Wha

you cannot know anything without God

Ik

Your quaran says that the bible is the word of God

@Deleted User Correction, only the Old Testament.

Also, Iberian and Protestant? Wtf

Well, even if you weren't it would still be cancerous

But your Portuguese or Spanish ancestors would be disgusted by your heresy.

My English ancestors probably feel that way toward me

Though my German ones would be fine (excluding the Bavarian ones)

I believe my mother's side of the family has been Lutheran since the reformation

@Deleted User You're Protestant?

Ew

You didn't know?

I thought I told you

Lutheran

Lutheranism=heresy

^

Justification is not by faith alone

The Bible makes that quite clear

James 2:24 is the only place in the entire New Testament where the phrase faith alone is used, and it is condemned as heresy.

Romans 3:28 "Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law."

Right, works of the Mosaic Law, such as circumcision.

And works alone don't save you

Galatians 5:6 "For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love."

That refutes faith alone

No it doesn't

It proves the Catholic position that cooperation with God's grace is necessary. That is why Paul writes faith working through love. Because it is the grace and love of God that moves us towards good works. Which therefore means faith alone is not sufficient.

Ephesians 2:8 "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;"

My family has been Protestant for as long as I know anyway

Both my mom's and dad's side

My dad's side was Methodist I believe, and if I go further back enough, Anglican. Mother's side was Lutheran probably since the reformation

Read the context and you will see that the context there presupposes obedience and fidelity to God's law. Ephesians 2:8-9 doesn't prove faith alone. In fact, check the Greek and you will see that the Greek for "through the faith" translates to "dia tes pisteos" which is parallel with Colossians 2:12, which uses the same Greek in reference to being saved through baptism. So, Paul is merely summarizing the grace and the gift of salvation that God has given us, Paul isn't saying faith alone saves you.

@Deleted User

Who cares what your family was

wtf are y'all discussing bout

I have family members who were Methodists. What's your point?

Justification and the Bible

justification for?

Where does it say that the faith alone leads to good works specifically?

In salvation @AfricanCynic

Unless I overlooked something

@Deleted User It doesn't

Then how do you know?

But, Luther's doctrine entails that faith alone, and "accepting Jesus into your heart" is all that's needed for salvation. Which is wrong of course. Justification has different states, if you roll back into the mire _so to speak_ you can't get to heaven. We must be sincere and truly have love for God, though even if your intentions aren't pure, and you do your best, God will not hold it against you. This is not what Protestantism teaches though. It teaches that justification is credited to a believer, and is alien to them. Which is why we can't lose it.

@Deleted User I know that the bible does not teach faith alone. None of the Church Fathers believed in this, and Saint Peter or Paul never adhered to the Protestant Deformation on the doctrine of justification.

Soon my brothers everyone who calls us neo-nazis or larpers will have their heads filled with lead

Okay

So you're saying that the love that they're mentioning in the verses implies that it has to be true love which is shown by works?

Also, side question, do Anglicans believe in faith alone?

umm

@Deleted User isn't that a little extreme

@AfricanCynic No mercy for the godless

The subhumans will be sent back to where they belong

and the heathens will be forced to repent

umm

yeah no

You don't understand what's at stake

All of Europe could become South Africa

very unlikely

apartheid was never meant to last

the failure was its system

and the dutch never ventured outside the cape

Greatness comes from the heart and the fist; we must establish a strong morale vigour within our communities and we must thrash the enemies of Christ with terror and fear

the only way i could see south africa becoming majority white was if the dutch came before the zulu and colonized all of south aria, not just the cape

treror and fear won't last

see every terror nation ever

Greatness comes from the heart and the fist; we must build within our people foundations for virtue and heroism and establish a medium for faith and honour whilst thrashing the wicked with terror and fear. We will extend the grasp of our righteous vehemence across all of Europe imposing it upon all who oppose justice. The Zionist oligarchs who run this realm will be overwhelmed by the passion and the vigour of our will, they will fall to the dust before us and their servants will shriek pleas and excuses with black hearts rumbling with fear and desperation.

Tears will be drawn from their crippled eyes as justice marches towards them.

"justice" to whom

@AfricanCynic The Dutch arrived before the Bantus

The race mixers, the Zionists, the Prime Ministers

The Bantus weren't there yet

@Deleted User depends

No

where

Towards the coast

the first south african kingdom in limpopo came hundreds of years before the dutch

and the zulu a few decades earlier

although

@Deleted User Yes, Anglicans believe in faith alone.

the cape and orange free state were never settled by the bantu

Episcopalians do too

@AfricanCynic Cape is towards the coast which is what I said

and the transvaal was somewhat depopulated by the time the boers came

that's also why the cape is majority mixed race

Still, I think the entire country belongs to the whites. They were smart enough to settle it, and use the resources. The blacks never used its resources.

cough cough black prostitutes and white sailors

nah that's an unfair point

its like saying africa belongs to china

as most resources in africa are being dug up by chinese companies

what the whites should have done was breed out the colureds

in cape

and have mass european immigration

and have some kind of new zealand

Notice I also said settled

The Chinese are settling or colonizing Africa

Aren't*

alright, time to rape you all

umm

you'd be suprised

excluding south africa

China is colonizing Africa, econmically

there are more chinese than whites in africa

But I meant literally colonizing as the Europeans did

they are buying up land, as well as giving economic help to africa to build relations

Are there really?

to tie africa into chinas bloc

yes

hold on