Justification is not by faith alone

The Bible makes that quite clear

James 2:24 is the only place in the entire New Testament where the phrase faith alone is used, and it is condemned as heresy.

Romans 3:28 "Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law."

Right, works of the Mosaic Law, such as circumcision.

And works alone don't save you

Galatians 5:6 "For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love."

That refutes faith alone

No it doesn't

It proves the Catholic position that cooperation with God's grace is necessary. That is why Paul writes faith working through love. Because it is the grace and love of God that moves us towards good works. Which therefore means faith alone is not sufficient.

Ephesians 2:8 "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;"

My family has been Protestant for as long as I know anyway

Both my mom's and dad's side

My dad's side was Methodist I believe, and if I go further back enough, Anglican. Mother's side was Lutheran probably since the reformation

Read the context and you will see that the context there presupposes obedience and fidelity to God's law. Ephesians 2:8-9 doesn't prove faith alone. In fact, check the Greek and you will see that the Greek for "through the faith" translates to "dia tes pisteos" which is parallel with Colossians 2:12, which uses the same Greek in reference to being saved through baptism. So, Paul is merely summarizing the grace and the gift of salvation that God has given us, Paul isn't saying faith alone saves you.

@Deleted User

Who cares what your family was

wtf are y'all discussing bout

I have family members who were Methodists. What's your point?

Justification and the Bible

justification for?

Where does it say that the faith alone leads to good works specifically?

In salvation @AfricanCynic

Unless I overlooked something

@Deleted User It doesn't

Then how do you know?

But, Luther's doctrine entails that faith alone, and "accepting Jesus into your heart" is all that's needed for salvation. Which is wrong of course. Justification has different states, if you roll back into the mire _so to speak_ you can't get to heaven. We must be sincere and truly have love for God, though even if your intentions aren't pure, and you do your best, God will not hold it against you. This is not what Protestantism teaches though. It teaches that justification is credited to a believer, and is alien to them. Which is why we can't lose it.

@Deleted User I know that the bible does not teach faith alone. None of the Church Fathers believed in this, and Saint Peter or Paul never adhered to the Protestant Deformation on the doctrine of justification.

Soon my brothers everyone who calls us neo-nazis or larpers will have their heads filled with lead

Okay

So you're saying that the love that they're mentioning in the verses implies that it has to be true love which is shown by works?

Also, side question, do Anglicans believe in faith alone?

umm

@Deleted User isn't that a little extreme

@AfricanCynic No mercy for the godless

The subhumans will be sent back to where they belong

and the heathens will be forced to repent

umm

yeah no

You don't understand what's at stake

All of Europe could become South Africa