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My family has been Protestant for as long as I know anyway
Both my mom's and dad's side
My dad's side was Methodist I believe, and if I go further back enough, Anglican. Mother's side was Lutheran probably since the reformation
Read the context and you will see that the context there presupposes obedience and fidelity to God's law. Ephesians 2:8-9 doesn't prove faith alone. In fact, check the Greek and you will see that the Greek for "through the faith" translates to "dia tes pisteos" which is parallel with Colossians 2:12, which uses the same Greek in reference to being saved through baptism. So, Paul is merely summarizing the grace and the gift of salvation that God has given us, Paul isn't saying faith alone saves you.
Who cares what your family was
wtf are y'all discussing bout
I have family members who were Methodists. What's your point?
Justification and the Bible
justification for?
Where does it say that the faith alone leads to good works specifically?
In salvation @AfricanCynic
Unless I overlooked something
@Deleted User It doesn't
Then how do you know?
But, Luther's doctrine entails that faith alone, and "accepting Jesus into your heart" is all that's needed for salvation. Which is wrong of course. Justification has different states, if you roll back into the mire _so to speak_ you can't get to heaven. We must be sincere and truly have love for God, though even if your intentions aren't pure, and you do your best, God will not hold it against you. This is not what Protestantism teaches though. It teaches that justification is credited to a believer, and is alien to them. Which is why we can't lose it.
@Deleted User I know that the bible does not teach faith alone. None of the Church Fathers believed in this, and Saint Peter or Paul never adhered to the Protestant Deformation on the doctrine of justification.
Soon my brothers everyone who calls us neo-nazis or larpers will have their heads filled with lead
Okay
So you're saying that the love that they're mentioning in the verses implies that it has to be true love which is shown by works?
umm
@Deleted User isn't that a little extreme
@AfricanCynic No mercy for the godless
The subhumans will be sent back to where they belong
and the heathens will be forced to repent
umm
yeah no
You don't understand what's at stake
All of Europe could become South Africa
very unlikely
apartheid was never meant to last
the failure was its system
and the dutch never ventured outside the cape
Greatness comes from the heart and the fist; we must establish a strong morale vigour within our communities and we must thrash the enemies of Christ with terror and fear
the only way i could see south africa becoming majority white was if the dutch came before the zulu and colonized all of south aria, not just the cape
treror and fear won't last
see every terror nation ever
Greatness comes from the heart and the fist; we must build within our people foundations for virtue and heroism and establish a medium for faith and honour whilst thrashing the wicked with terror and fear. We will extend the grasp of our righteous vehemence across all of Europe imposing it upon all who oppose justice. The Zionist oligarchs who run this realm will be overwhelmed by the passion and the vigour of our will, they will fall to the dust before us and their servants will shriek pleas and excuses with black hearts rumbling with fear and desperation.
Tears will be drawn from their crippled eyes as justice marches towards them.
"justice" to whom