@Vassili

@Deleted User

Wha

you cannot know anything without God

Ik

Your quaran says that the bible is the word of God

@Deleted User Correction, only the Old Testament.

Also, Iberian and Protestant? Wtf

Well, even if you weren't it would still be cancerous

But your Portuguese or Spanish ancestors would be disgusted by your heresy.

My English ancestors probably feel that way toward me

Though my German ones would be fine (excluding the Bavarian ones)

I believe my mother's side of the family has been Lutheran since the reformation

@Deleted User You're Protestant?

Ew

You didn't know?

I thought I told you

Lutheran

Lutheranism=heresy

^

Justification is not by faith alone

The Bible makes that quite clear

James 2:24 is the only place in the entire New Testament where the phrase faith alone is used, and it is condemned as heresy.

Romans 3:28 "Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law."

Right, works of the Mosaic Law, such as circumcision.

And works alone don't save you

Galatians 5:6 "For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love."

That refutes faith alone

No it doesn't

It proves the Catholic position that cooperation with God's grace is necessary. That is why Paul writes faith working through love. Because it is the grace and love of God that moves us towards good works. Which therefore means faith alone is not sufficient.

Ephesians 2:8 "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;"

My family has been Protestant for as long as I know anyway

Both my mom's and dad's side

My dad's side was Methodist I believe, and if I go further back enough, Anglican. Mother's side was Lutheran probably since the reformation

Read the context and you will see that the context there presupposes obedience and fidelity to God's law. Ephesians 2:8-9 doesn't prove faith alone. In fact, check the Greek and you will see that the Greek for "through the faith" translates to "dia tes pisteos" which is parallel with Colossians 2:12, which uses the same Greek in reference to being saved through baptism. So, Paul is merely summarizing the grace and the gift of salvation that God has given us, Paul isn't saying faith alone saves you.

@Deleted User

Who cares what your family was

wtf are y'all discussing bout

I have family members who were Methodists. What's your point?

Justification and the Bible

justification for?