they are, they just dont effect mental state the same

your arguments are dumb and you have no sense of scale

Being addicted to something dangerous, will ruin a person

Idiot

Good

What's the issue

get some sense of scale about what you're talking about and stop being an ideological retard

smoking kills more people every day than car accidents

His arguments are devoid of any reason at all

there's your benefits of legalization

@Nerthulas Lung cancer is pretty debilitating lmao

not an argument

I said not as debilitating

Yes, cigarettes should be fucking banned too

And alcohol

you know what, you can answer your own questions @Weaboo Kempeitai

And people that disagree should be sent to rehabilitation camps for their terrible behavior

actually effectively ban cigarettes and rehabilitate addicts and you will cut down on deaths more than banning automobiles

Lmao

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you bunch of pink commie f-words

why don't you think for five seconds about the difference between smoking and heroin addictions before you ping me with utterly ignorant questions @Weaboo Kempeitai

Wrong the correct argument should be you should kill drug users

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Buy ur a cuck

check the math, cigarettes kill more people per day by an order of magnitude than cars do

@Billy Ray Kill the drug dealers

you'll never take me booze and smokes

maybe duerte was onto something

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It doesn't work that way idiot

Banning shit won’t change human psychology

we have ways of dealing with addicts

Nerth

wot

Ur my

Bf

nobody is getting round up and killed

no one is getting bashed on the head either

dummies

Imagine thinking such a policy would be effective, at all. Yes, let the public spend billions in taxes for yet another useless wave of laws and government intrusion in the lives of the general public.

But cigarettes kill a lot, so you can pointlessly excuse people who oppose your stupid policies of wanting people to die. It's the same tactic that gun control advocates use. Waving death stats in people's faces and acting on emotion.

you mean accuse, not excuse

you cannot compare gun control to drug prohibition

owning a gun does not immediately affect your health

doing heroin does

The lolbertarian arguments of "why should I spent money on other people's healthcare and policing?" makes sense when you apply it to demographics.

https://twitter.com/RANEurope/status/1189442126712582145

Hail God Hail Jesus Hail our groypers

If someone is addicted to cigarettes I don’t blame the cigarettes I blame the behavior. That being said, companies shouldn’t facilitate bad behaviors

Why should I spent money on cleaning up "urbanized" areas?

*gets shot by a heroin addict during a deal gone wrong*
"well at least the market is free"

Haha

Switch Tactics

So many options missing from this survey.

start explaining to hanna who benefits from mass immigration

Of course, it's not the endgame, again, but if you want to accelerate the decline, then the lolbertarian position is the right way to go politically.

Das rite.

lolbertarianism breaks absolutely fucking everything it touches

option 5# Support Hanna and keep her, and the community safe from thugs

We need to save her

like king midas, everything you touch turns to gold but gold is fucking heavy and you're causing inflation

@DA GOMMIE JOO Okay, so, you're just spazzing out and not asking, why would sombody engage in a shady deal for a substance that is totally legal? And why would dealers need guns? If the substance is totally legal? Do pharmacists carry guns? A lot of the substances they sell are addictive and dangerous.

lol

#6 give her passage into the ethnodtate

<@!392034172912271360> That's the point.

@Weaboo Kempeitai because it's unregulated mostly

Ignore the degenerate.

cant wait to hear richard sperging about nick again cos nick got more popular than him

add her to your breeding stump collection

>people don't open fire over legally getting drugs!
>four days ago

not the real chris

this is in fact markomann

What about the opiate epidemic. Who do you guys blame? The drug companies?

Why are whites so susceptible

because they suck

lack of effort on anyone's part

Too trusting

Ahh, yes, the regulatory authorities know what's best, which is why they were fine with snake oil, leaches, and even in the modern age, parents drugging their kids with amphetamines, all legal, under the watch of qualified professionals.

yes the drug companies literlaly exploit people

knowingly

>snake oil
>the phrase comes from a time well known for lack of regulations

we aren't the regulatory authorities, retard

try again retard

there were no fucking regulatory agencies during the gilded age, when snake oil and heroin medicine was a thing

THAT'S WHY THE GILDED AGE WAS SHIT

thats where snake oil comes from yes

FDA only regulates after something unsafe happens

"traveling merchants" in the wild west

rootless , eternal

>referring to the medieval catholic church as a regulatory agency in the modern sense

that's like calling the 13th century crossbow declaration a gun control law

well, lack of enforcement

Good stream topic today 👀

your arguments hold no fucking water in any sense

Cut off thier middle fingers

I like fries

I've heard better arguments from actual heroin addicts

the FDA regulated fucking Cheerios

made them change their box

honestly I don't know why we spend time arguing with Weaboo anymore, I thought he was relatively open minded but I just can't see this person joining us at all, besides he's gay so could never really get behind it ultimately

he debates people like he was reading a book

The FDA denies people healthcare.

yes lol I noticed that

@Weaboo Kempeitai no that's insurance companies

No, it's the FDA.

you know, those private industries

They block treatments.

like what

inb4 heroin

🍟 🍟 🍟 🍟 🍟 🍟 🍟 🍟

Fries

From 5 guys

So $7 fries?

Five Guys gives you so many fries though

They are good as shit too

Yep

just expensive

gigantic fking bag of fries

lekker

yeah, they get so greasy they can break the bag

Don't swear, bf

fk i want borgar now

dutch fries with mayo

and peanut sauce

@deleted account that's the belgian flag you fucking retard

jk I appreciate you dashi

you're a good fren

https://nationalpost.com/health/so-much-is-at-stake-academics-call-for-release-of-data-behind-controversial-canadian-fluoride-study/amp

flouride brain

esp for boys right

5 points

Testosterone increase

@DA GOMMIE JOO Also, you're right, those were bad examples I used. Let's look at Thalidomide instead.

Experimental treatments must be approved by the FDA, which is a lengthy process, taking years. Think, how lives have been lost, because a treatment that could potentially cure a disease, was still waiting for FDA approval, despite the FDA proving, on many occasions, to not be a protector against dangerous side-effects?

IQ lower

how about stop putting chemicals in the water

@Endeavour Resolution > Endeavour

@Weaboo Kempeitai thanks to massive lobbying efforts by the companies that sold thalidomide and ignorance of a major study

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thalidomide-cover-up-1.3582035

"BUT MUH FREE MARKET WILL STOP BAD THINGS!"
>free market suppresses news of bad thing

So, you're saying the government serves private interests? Why trust them then? Why were the FDA unable to come to the same conclusions as this study did? Clearly, it proves their methods aren't as thorough as the private org who conducted the study.

fair point

2/3 of the libertarians in this server are literally homosexuals

lolbertarians are so fucking myopic

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"government bad! free market good!"
"but government is bad because of companies pushing them around because of the free marke-"
"GOVERNMENT BAD FREE MARKET GOOD"

Libertarians are parasites

J. H. Blair would've loved libertarians

"you mean you respect my right to shoot my own workers for striking? Golly gee, that's wonderful!"

libertarian communities would just become warlord fiefdoms

feudal europe was peak libertarian: every noble had their own private paid armies

I wonder whether libertarians or western marxists have more geys

it may very well be the former

Also, private actors doing bad things, such as bribery, is not a valid criticism of private ownership as an institution. I have zero reason to believe that governments aren't just as corrupt, and they have been just as corrupt. There is no private actor in history that has committed crimes on the level of any government.

Take the result of Fukushima vs the result of Chernobyl, or Blackwater massacring Iraqi civilians vs the countless massacres committed by the US government.

western marxists at least have the basement tankies

who are anti-degeneracy

there is no libertarian equivalent

>free market does bad thing
>"that doesn't mean the free market does bad things!"

Private actors are held accountable. Governments are not.

if private actors doing bad things is not a valid criticism of private ownership as an institution why is a particular government doing bad things at a particular time a valid criticism of statism?

>private company does bad thing
>"that doesn't mean private companies are bad!"
>government does bad thing
>"ALL GOVERNMENTS BAD"

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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/double%20standard

incoming sophistry to justify a clear double standard

What companies sell fluoride to cities?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSBP

I only found this one.

It's a fertilizer byproduct.

@Nerthulas Because private actors are held accountable. Blackwater tanked as a company, their reputation hasn't recovered, and it didn't take any Federal prosecution to do that. Governments are monopolies. Nobody gets a choice. You *have* to get your power from the same government who caused Chernobyl by negligent cost-cutting and are unwilling to admit their faults.

fluoride in itself isn't so bad, but the US just went overboard with it

@Weaboo Kempeitai cope

not an argument

double standard

You literally didn't even read it.

@Tuze Where do they buy it?

Governments are inherently bad because governments are monopolies on force. Private actors are subject to the whims of consumers.

im nekked

You can't critique and argument you haven't read.

I like govt

oh yeah, consumers have a lot of power

based and red pilled

@Weaboo Kempeitai The government is subject to voters.

If big govt existed weaboo wouldn't be a gay sperg

Companies bow to money.

so I actually went and made popcorn

democracy > plutocracy

let the show keep going

Fukushima happened due to negligence, and people were held accountable. Governments have killed thousands, and rarely are government agents held accountable. You just have to hope, that in the next four years, millions of people vote the right people into power.

Literally name a private actor who has committed theft or destruction on the level of any government.

once again, you criticize the universal when it comes to governments but only the particular when it comes to companies

@canadagamer9 Many chemical additives are by-products. That's why they get gov approval to be added to foods because otherwise it would be illegal to dump them

the rothchilds

rockefellers

let see, caretels

Universities have done far more harm than any government

and the gangs they support

pablo escobar

Aspartame and Wood Rosin are prime examples

How many people have they personally killed without the assistance of government agents?

Cartels only exist because of governments.

@DarthSammich So it isn't for brain control. They just want to make money selling garbage to put in the water.

Media institutions have done far more harm than any government

private media institutions

@canadagamer9 Yes

'killed'

Cartels only exist due to prohibition.

who the fuck cares about how many were killed

>governments pull together to track down and kill escobar
>"b-but this is gubmint's fault!"

Yes

Literally yes

you aren't arguing with normies here

my mistake, you think escobar's empire was a legit business

I don't care how many people government has killed

go city limits d20

I don't think people dying is the worst thing

look at these orbitters

lmao

orbitting this coal burner becka

just giving you examples to your question, sorry if they are not acceptable

there are worse things than some people dying

@DA GOMMIE JOO No, you don't seem to understand. Use some critical thinking. Why would a violent and armed cartel need to exist if the substance they sold wouldn't be subject to attacks by government agents? Do you see legitimate drug companies employing the same methods of cartels?

@Weaboo Kempeitai I mean coca cola literally hired death squads

the KKK used to do union busting

Do legit drug companies need armed soldiers, and smuggling rings?

Also, Escobar widely bribed government officials. Most cartels do.

https://cleanclothes.org/news/2007/03/14/cambodian-trade-union-leader-murdered

Yes, I actually agree with this. @Deleted User

@Weaboo Kempeitai no, that's what the government is for

@DA GOMMIE JOO Not even comparable to drug cartels tbh

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Colombia-Coca-Cola-Accused-of-Funding-Terrorist-Paramilitaries-20160901-0005.html

free market hitmen

legalize murder and the hitman market will disappear

Yes, okay, your arguments are bad.

most people won't murder so we'll all be fine

just ostracize murderers

ugh

don't let them into your communities

this is smart and I have thought this through

Lmao im hyped for the stream with spencer about nick fuentes

@Deleted User >merchants listed as non-privileged

damn, now the merchants are at the very top where the pope used to be

Literally not what I said

Spencer is gonna have to try so hard to hide the fact that jes salty about nick being more successful than him