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2019-10-20 18:40:25 UTC

Oh. I have

2019-10-20 18:40:33 UTC

I've already gone through the system

2019-10-20 18:40:35 UTC

what would a plot against markomann even look like?

2019-10-20 18:40:37 UTC

but that is not the end goal

2019-10-20 18:40:42 UTC

no i think ppl who argue this are missing the point

2019-10-20 18:40:44 UTC

The end goal is perpetual control

2019-10-20 18:40:45 UTC

by us

2019-10-20 18:40:54 UTC

and i mean ideological repub not party

2019-10-20 18:41:02 UTC

The idea that the left could ever win an election theoretically is mortifying

2019-10-20 18:41:10 UTC

too much work <:towelsweat:552805059042344960>

2019-10-20 18:41:12 UTC

Thus I take that out of the equation

2019-10-20 18:41:26 UTC

I prefer a society that values objective truth over the opinion of the public

2019-10-20 18:41:42 UTC

Democracy is a repudiation of truth

2019-10-20 18:41:50 UTC

ehh

2019-10-20 18:41:50 UTC

Your society values the opinions of Jews

2019-10-20 18:41:51 UTC

because what the public wants at the moment is deemed true

2019-10-20 18:42:13 UTC

@iippo muh jews. They are a problem, sure but there are deep structural problems at work

2019-10-20 18:42:28 UTC

An ethnostate alone is merely a band-aid

2019-10-20 18:42:30 UTC

learn

2019-10-20 18:42:32 UTC

statecraft

2019-10-20 18:42:33 UTC

if

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you

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want

2019-10-20 18:42:36 UTC

to

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win

2019-10-20 18:42:38 UTC

Systemic

2019-10-20 18:42:41 UTC

Insitutional

2019-10-20 18:42:49 UTC

Got any other buzz words?

2019-10-20 18:43:14 UTC

The juice have nothing to do with it you bigot; IT's ObViOuSlY ThE DemoCratIc SociAliStS <:kekboi:417880491182653450>

2019-10-20 18:43:29 UTC

Since when did I signal that?

2019-10-20 18:43:41 UTC

I said that demography is merely one ESSENTIAL component of a society

2019-10-20 18:44:03 UTC

yes, but i don't want to live in a society with people who have low in grp pref and don't adhere to axioms of survival and wellbeing before other things, so whether or not it is autocratic, repub etc. is irrelevant really, but republicanism will always create a safeguard against corruption and the possibility of that one leader ruining things so it's preferable

2019-10-20 18:44:19 UTC

Yes but voting is not a feature of all republics

2019-10-20 18:44:33 UTC

did someone just dox a baby

2019-10-20 18:44:35 UTC

bro wtf

2019-10-20 18:44:44 UTC

@ALternativeToLife What's wrong with democracy then?

2019-10-20 18:44:51 UTC

the people

2019-10-20 18:44:52 UTC

Learn of the italian merchant republics of old. They are a useful tool for change

2019-10-20 18:45:07 UTC

iippo, your so bluepilled its giving me AIDS

2019-10-20 18:45:07 UTC

Yes Europa

2019-10-20 18:45:11 UTC

democracy sucks because the population sucks it's that simple

2019-10-20 18:45:16 UTC

Hollywood tells you that every leader is Hitler

2019-10-20 18:45:24 UTC

A white democracy will simply bring us back to the 1950s

2019-10-20 18:45:27 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/635549158052462592/03-jm071919_COLOR_Trump_Squad_Congress_Minorities_Women-e1563532137960.png

2019-10-20 18:45:32 UTC

and the process will start immediately

2019-10-20 18:45:32 UTC

And to trust institutions that aren't the state

2019-10-20 18:45:38 UTC

?

2019-10-20 18:46:07 UTC

@ALternativeToLife Thoughts on this system

2019-10-20 18:47:22 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/635549640888156180/239.png

2019-10-20 18:48:04 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/635549816608522250/1510656992828.png

2019-10-20 18:48:14 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/635549859671179265/1534388368184.gif

2019-10-20 18:48:34 UTC

bro

2019-10-20 18:48:36 UTC

shiiieeeeet my eyes bro

2019-10-20 18:48:40 UTC

Ok it's retard hour

2019-10-20 18:48:41 UTC

put that in <#634420893870981168>

2019-10-20 18:48:50 UTC

put it in curiosities

2019-10-20 18:48:50 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/635550008481021992/1533658063186.jpg

2019-10-20 18:48:53 UTC

no it won't, you're not accounting for differing behaviors including in grp pref, a state with a population of high in grp won't fall into this trap no matter what, really what system you advocate varies on the population and your own values, if you live in clown world and your goal is to bend a population that displays behaviors of openness tolerance etc. then autocracy makes sense to bend them to your will and potentially remove such people/genes from the state, i just don't get too caught up in systems because i recognise the common denominator being the population no matter what.

2019-10-20 18:49:15 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/635550115481780225/1519874624787.jpg

2019-10-20 18:49:19 UTC

I love black people

2019-10-20 18:49:32 UTC

https://youtu.be/SkhSouryhCE Man how fucking sad is this? This is awful. Not even animals treat their children this badly.

2019-10-20 18:49:46 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/635550244691509248/el_padre_goblino.jpg

2019-10-20 18:50:06 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/635550326820438036/AmerimuttUSA.gif

2019-10-20 18:50:09 UTC

if u have a ton of memes u want to dump, take it to memes or curiosities

2019-10-20 18:50:32 UTC

lot of lurkers would appreciate it

2019-10-20 18:50:38 UTC

so the question of "what system is best", well to me it would always be one that accounts for negative mutations and allows for group selection against that, so an ethno nationalist republic makes the most sense, where people have a say through the most capable representatives

2019-10-20 18:50:49 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/635550509389840399/gettyimages-525371733-2048x2048.jpg

2019-10-20 18:51:03 UTC

marko, join another chat first

2019-10-20 18:51:24 UTC

yw

2019-10-20 18:51:26 UTC

this is why i'm super against hereditary monarchies because it's the perfect system for a mutant to ruin the state

2019-10-20 18:51:53 UTC

in one generation

2019-10-20 18:52:35 UTC

Monarchies are doing just fine

2019-10-20 18:52:46 UTC

Most republics don't last longer than a few centuries

2019-10-20 18:53:08 UTC

because they don't exercise group selection

2019-10-20 18:53:13 UTC

it's that simple

2019-10-20 18:53:17 UTC

Tbh, I think the hybrid type is the longest lasting

2019-10-20 18:53:21 UTC

Venice lasted for 1000 years

2019-10-20 18:53:28 UTC

despite being attacked by Byzantines

2019-10-20 18:53:29 UTC

Not even going to try.

2019-10-20 18:53:30 UTC

Lombards

2019-10-20 18:53:30 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/635551184387833866/shhhhh-eeeeeeee-iiiitt-police-tyrone-sheeit-meme-50045105.png

2019-10-20 18:53:35 UTC

Franks

2019-10-20 18:53:37 UTC

Austrians

2019-10-20 18:53:38 UTC

ottomans

2019-10-20 18:53:40 UTC

Absolutism is the best though.

2019-10-20 18:53:40 UTC

Hungarians

2019-10-20 18:53:56 UTC

@Hector Opinion on The Doge system?

2019-10-20 18:54:16 UTC

Doge system, like the doge meme?

2019-10-20 18:54:30 UTC

Basically, a monarch elected by the elites of the society, who have been carefully vetted, who rules for life but can't execute people for his own entertainment

2019-10-20 18:54:41 UTC

I'm a doge supremacist

2019-10-20 18:54:41 UTC

@Hector The Doge of Venice for example

2019-10-20 18:54:42 UTC

if i start with 10 ethno nationalists i have to make sure the behaviors making them such continue indefinitely or the state will fail, democratic states fail because the population diverges, monarchies can fail under one person for the same reason

2019-10-20 18:55:02 UTC

No, absolute hereditary landed monarchy Iโ€™m in favor of.

2019-10-20 18:55:10 UTC

@Hector I understand

2019-10-20 18:55:13 UTC

but here in the states

2019-10-20 18:55:16 UTC

that is impossible

2019-10-20 18:55:20 UTC

but given the low rates of mutation, a system where the majority can select against mutations is better

2019-10-20 18:55:28 UTC

Were culturally encoded to be against your system

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