Message from @21ooAB

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2019-10-20 18:50:09 UTC  

if u have a ton of memes u want to dump, take it to memes or curiosities

2019-10-20 18:50:32 UTC  

lot of lurkers would appreciate it

2019-10-20 18:50:38 UTC  

so the question of "what system is best", well to me it would always be one that accounts for negative mutations and allows for group selection against that, so an ethno nationalist republic makes the most sense, where people have a say through the most capable representatives

2019-10-20 18:50:49 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/635550509389840399/gettyimages-525371733-2048x2048.jpg

2019-10-20 18:51:03 UTC  

marko, join another chat first

2019-10-20 18:51:24 UTC  

yw

2019-10-20 18:51:26 UTC  

this is why i'm super against hereditary monarchies because it's the perfect system for a mutant to ruin the state

2019-10-20 18:51:53 UTC  

in one generation

2019-10-20 18:52:35 UTC  

Monarchies are doing just fine

2019-10-20 18:52:46 UTC  

Most republics don't last longer than a few centuries

2019-10-20 18:53:08 UTC  

because they don't exercise group selection

2019-10-20 18:53:13 UTC  

it's that simple

2019-10-20 18:53:17 UTC  

Tbh, I think the hybrid type is the longest lasting

2019-10-20 18:53:21 UTC  

Venice lasted for 1000 years

2019-10-20 18:53:28 UTC  

despite being attacked by Byzantines

2019-10-20 18:53:29 UTC  

Not even going to try.

2019-10-20 18:53:30 UTC  

Lombards

2019-10-20 18:53:30 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/635551184387833866/shhhhh-eeeeeeee-iiiitt-police-tyrone-sheeit-meme-50045105.png

2019-10-20 18:53:35 UTC  

Franks

2019-10-20 18:53:37 UTC  

Austrians

2019-10-20 18:53:38 UTC  

ottomans

2019-10-20 18:53:40 UTC  

Absolutism is the best though.

2019-10-20 18:53:40 UTC  

Hungarians

2019-10-20 18:53:56 UTC  

@Hector Opinion on The Doge system?

2019-10-20 18:54:16 UTC  

Doge system, like the doge meme?

2019-10-20 18:54:30 UTC  

Basically, a monarch elected by the elites of the society, who have been carefully vetted, who rules for life but can't execute people for his own entertainment

2019-10-20 18:54:41 UTC  

I'm a doge supremacist

2019-10-20 18:54:41 UTC  

@Hector The Doge of Venice for example

2019-10-20 18:54:42 UTC  

if i start with 10 ethno nationalists i have to make sure the behaviors making them such continue indefinitely or the state will fail, democratic states fail because the population diverges, monarchies can fail under one person for the same reason

2019-10-20 18:55:02 UTC  

No, absolute hereditary landed monarchy I’m in favor of.

2019-10-20 18:55:10 UTC  

@Hector I understand

2019-10-20 18:55:13 UTC  

but here in the states

2019-10-20 18:55:16 UTC  

that is impossible

2019-10-20 18:55:20 UTC  

but given the low rates of mutation, a system where the majority can select against mutations is better

2019-10-20 18:55:28 UTC  

Were culturally encoded to be against your system

2019-10-20 18:55:31 UTC  

even if its the best

2019-10-20 18:55:47 UTC  

Once we collapse back to Darwinian selection, monarchy will be inevitable.

2019-10-20 18:55:53 UTC  

That won't happen imo

2019-10-20 18:55:56 UTC  

and republicanism is just more efficient and logical than direct democracy where the most capable represent

2019-10-20 18:56:01 UTC  

This discussion started with your bluepilled take that the left can't win the next election

2019-10-20 18:56:03 UTC  

Nope