Basically

Id give christians more credit too if they viewed their religion more as a philosophy than some magical force

jut more incel cope

yes, but you've changed to that

everyone shuts down when you challenge their presuppositions

as a defense mechanism

@fuguer when they cant rationalize their presuppositions

I am joking btw

i agree i see most people as just sophisticated animals.

@fuguer no

we're not as special as we think we are

Philosopher's don't

Not real ones

They entertain other presuppositions

Other systems

Challenges

etc

Doesn't mean they accept them

But they suspend, bracket, and engage

Yeah but most people aren’t great thinkers

Thereby they can grow unlike most humans

They possess *mind*, in the Aristotelean sense.

A rare faculty amongst the mass.

So, when I'm generous I consider all those to be proto-humans

@WWM can you grow with only a bias forcing you

not the urge to think

what

Can we grow with bias forcing us?
Rather than the positive impetus to think?

yes

not to entertain other thoughts

whatever, I was (mostly) just joking

So, bias being tradition, cultural impositions, etc?

yes

and I say mostly because I believe there is a small amount of cope in there

lol

instinct too

is that a bad thing?

The answer is no.

If that's the *only* thing driving you, no

You will stay in that box

And defend against all comers

But what if it's a really big box tho

But

Actually

because id actually vouch for people having a bias

because it shows they care in a way

that they want to utilize science and not just make more of it

or philosophy

If we think to the early days of the Church, in its confronting Islam, we actually see how the formulations the Church fathers came up with to defend Christian dogma and policy *in the face of Muslim denial of revelation* actually helped lead to the Renaissance.

But

Those Fathers, from a defensive mode for sure, did strive outward towards new thought.

das gud, mang

So you can strive outwards into new thought from a defensive rather than exploratory disposition.

But what if you just innovate your new thought constantly

I know

into something better and better

just be aware of why you're on here

and not other thoughts

I don't quite know what you're asking

Just build on your own bias

and not create new ideas

stay in your box

But, there are other ideas and an, at least mostly, shared reality

Shared problems

Shared feedback

And there's logic

So that's going to lead to intercourse of ideas

And some commonality

Substantial

what if you prohibit them from growing so only yours exist?

would that be a bad thing

if you still grow

and innovate just from your own bias'

and kill everything else

Well, if one idea was to do human sacrifice, suppressing that idea, unless it was necessary for racial survival in extremis, would be pretty certainly good.

So suppression could be good.

In edge cases

But, generally no.

We should have free discourse

Let ideas compete

Right now we are in a situation where the logic, discourse, and levels of correspondence to reality are heavily on the side of the New Right.

Consequently, not being able to compete on the level of ideas, the entrenched Left has silenced these voices.

Because they can't compete

oof
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/10/bomb-attacks-are-now-a-normal-part-of-swedish-life/

In silencing these voices they speed the destruction of the West and Whites.

Human sacrifice is overrated; at least when people expect me to sacrifice myself; let the plebs die in droves while I just enjoy life <:dab:395562678153904128>

ok but what if we were in power now, would you still vouch for the left's opinions. because I wouldnt

In the coming civil war, we will watch from the sidelines.

+ this is all part of God's plan; if you're having a bad life it's all you deserve 👀

if my ideas reigned

id get rid of all others

and im just being honest

@vicmaxim There's a lot of value in some degree of free discourse

only if it makes my ideas better

I would incline to not totally censor the Left

that's what you gotta do when you're pretending to be a grill

but they're wrong and they're crazy

Perhaps God has a plan to turn our species into a space travelling type 5 civilization 👀

Lmao

You have to think from the perspective of the 'mass individual'