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Surprised he’s not been nuked yet
He made a really good point, if the people showed up weren't white maga ppl and were all black it would've been an African tribal warfare with guns
I don't need a based black mouthpiece to advocate what is best for me and my people.
Lol he's not black that's a bit ridiculous
nick fuentes is a spic
I was mostly referring to the protests and the newcasters going up to mostly blacks or other minorities to interview them.
Nick Fuentes is based, i dont care if hes not pure hwhite like me
I don't know if you can win the optics debate. No matter what they will call you racist and other names.
@McFansy Have you watched the Braving Ruin and Parse the Noise videos on optics? They have legitimate reasons why they are important.
I'll watch them real quick and get back to you.
dressing up as spooky ghosts or marching in goosestep is throwing any optical lens out, exposing you as a loony
I keep flip flopping on optics to be honest.. Optics are good for the short term but honestly in the long run i think it wont matter
you need to have some standards
think about how everyone rational on the right makes fun of organizations like Atomwaffen or "the Base"
they are autistic larpers who say "screw optics" and look like loonies
@NeoFuturist Shouting "blood and soil" and "death to all J's" in neo-Nazi uniforms are even worse. Do they honestly think they'll convince more whites to join them?
and you alienate allies. not everyone wants to act like stormfags
I think those guys are only looking at the end game, they have laser focus what is going to happen in the next generation
they want to bring the third reich back and have epic super nazi soldiers
And, while I believe some of them might be feds, we shouldn't dismiss the possiblity of actual spergs existing.
Politics as much as we may not like is about marketing and branding. You need to present your platform as appealing as you can and Swastikas' Flags, Jackboots and Roman Salutes does not accomplish that whatsoever
look, super epic mode germans are cool
but we're not epic mode germans
And there is a case for getting prepared now but if we could avoid neofascism that would be preferable
things change pretty quickly sometimes
i think National Socialism needs to rebrand and say no to hitler. hitler was a german national socialist, not an american, not a polish, not a russian
if you *really* want a nationalist socialism
otherwise, i think just dont use those labels
@Louis XIV (aka 1685Violin) False Dialectic. Most normal conservatives know that Baltimore is a shithole because of blacks. You are acting like everyone came into the world yesterday.
Hitler is a historical figure and nothing more, stop giving them ground.. Its in the past, you shouldnt avow or disavow anything hitler did but learn from his mistakes and improve
normal conservatives don't like ns talking points
@NeoFuturist And truthfully, the rhetoric is very spergy within the comments section of Vincent James.
does tucker carlson scream blood and soil?
does he march around in Hugo boss
you don't have to scream anything buddy
we're talking about optics
@McFansy What are you talking about? What did BR say about Baltimore?
Only scream blood and soil when youre going into battle...
tucker carlson has pretty good optics
you can't just throw normie conservatives into the far right, you have to give them an attractive medium to pass into it
normie conservatives already are pretty far right
Nick Fuentes is a good medium i think
some might, but i'm guessing the majority learn through experience and attractive mediums
Cuz hes Hispanic
fuentes is a great medium for zoomers
Yes, I know that most normie conservatives don't deny that blacks commit more crime than others.
zoomers should go through nick fuentes, and once they realize he is fake and gay they can really become part of the far right
still good for the redpills
And what do you watch that you consider far right?
honestly it's more podcasts now
RedIce? Millenial Woes, BPS, Iconoclast
not really big on podcasts or things like that
i think an amazing way of building bridges to those sympathetic to the right wing is the arts.
Morgoth Lives for videos is English hard right
nick is useful for redpilling normies but nothing much more then that
its a shame hes a degenerate though
I've always been attracted to fascist and german "art", especially in the uniforms, music, and architecture
yeah the germans had some great art
they had an arts revolution after the degenerate modern art of the weimar republic
I'd say that was my pipeline to questioning democracy, liberalism, and the whole lot
but think about the books and movies people watch
@Louis XIV (aka 1685Violin) I think the main reason why I think fighting over optics is more or less useless is because we don't control the camera or framing. The Media does, the Culture does. If we controlled those things then maybe we would get a fair shake.
*that's what people aspire to*
they see the marvel people, stephen king, anime shows
whatever people are watching is something that they are attracted to and i've seen it in my personal life how interests can be a pipeline to something greater
@McFansy Again, does it mean we should fly Third Reich imagery and shout edgy rhetoric to convince more people to join us? This is what Braving Ruin was talking about.
That argument is further reinforced by the Parse the Noise video.
third reich imagery is heretical in this society, no one wants to be a heretic
I've never said anything about flying the windmill flag.
They Branded the proud boys as nazis.
we might be confusing aesthetics and optics, even if they are related
I said that as an example.
They can use their megaphone to brand anyone as a nazi.
and most people will believe it.
That’s the point of optics, to make it so the people won’t believe it
We cannot play nice and they will avoid attacking us. They WILL attack us no matter what
even if we get Based Blackguys to shout our opinions from the rooftops
i could never see my father rallying around *andrew anglin*. i could see my father rallying around tucker carlson
It’s Okay to Be White was a perfect example. Because it was the media having a hysterical reaction to something completely reasonable and inoffensive to the general public
yeah no shit
"YEaH, JeWs won't RePlaCe uS"! "BlOoD aNd SoIL!"
- Some people in the Charlottesville Rally.
optics != respectability though. It may correlate to it but it's not 1:1
maybe i misunderstand optics. i though optics is about how people see you and what you present to the world is part of that
@Louis XIV (aka 1685Violin) They were marching to save a confederate statue, What could they have done to get the Media not to attack them?
respectability is part of that isn't it?
Point being if the media smears something as racist, when it very clearly is not then the smear backfires. Optics is all about making sure the smear does not register
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