Because half the time they are idiotic and bring a swastika.

and that's probably for the better

Quite nearly every European country has some sort of nationalist and or identitarian movement

And yes optics matter

because identity politics is a really stupid game

and when you play stupid games you win stupid prizes

It is what nations are built upon?

and perhaps waving a swastika around isnt a good idea

Who is France for? The French.

That is identity politics, you know.

i think everyone agrees that america is for americans

i just think they disagree on who americans are

And Americans are white.

i would call descendants of owned slaves and natives americans too

Just show CivNats facts, have discussions with them, don't degrade them but rather show them basic facts of our reality, and they will change.

but the abhorrent amount of immigrants, legal or illegal, from third world countries especially in africa make it difficult to discern slave owned from immigrated

i don't think everyone agrees that america is for americans. not at all. a whole lot of people think america is for anyone, or that it's a giant open-air shopping mall

@TraitorGG I think it’s kind of only fair to consider descendants slaves and natives as Americans too. Not because of “muh reparations” or anything but just because they were here in such mass numbers in the very early days of America’s history

"america is for everyone"

And @Bean of Texas I hate people who think like that

Maybe.

fuck that gay shit

Or just residents.

A country for everyone is a country for no one

I’ve seen people saying that the American flag is racist and that all flags need t be celebrated

Makes me angry as hell

syndrome from the incredibles logic

But voting rights should certainly be restricted for who they were meant for at this country's foundation.

voting rights should be restricted *anyway*

i don't want stupid white people voting any more than i want stupid black people voting

imagine if you need to show an ID to vote

@TraitorGG voting rights is a pretty shaky topic anyway because you can’t just say which citizens can and can’t vote. It sort of defeats the purpose of a citizenship

just imagine how much that would change things

i don't want voting. fuck democracy

Democracy can work if the most qualified can vote

you aught to have at least held a job and only vote in exchange for being on the "first to draft if we go to war" list

No it doesn't. in 1790 the only voters were white, landowning males.

I am a citizen yet I cannot vote? Do you know why? I'm not 18. Thats a restriction and yet I am a citizen.

It is the exact same concept as an age restriction.

yeah but telling people kids should vote

well

nevermind

But the 18 year old age restriction is for a valid reason

it probably *would* go over well

As is the white and landowning males one.

How

not so sure about landowning

It ensures they are 1) The ones that were meant for this nation and 2) have a stake in this nation, aren't freeloaders

Landowners have a vested interest in the success of a nation. An inner city minority on welfare does not.

Other than "muh gibs."

although the having a stake in the nations success philosophy is perfect

yeah but what about people who just live in gated suburbs

If I were to vote, I’d say I’d probably end up voting for the same person as any of you guys

and bought houses, and worked hard, but just don't own land

Then make military service available as well.

But I do agree that people with a stake in the nation is important

4 years in the military is plenty of sacrifice to be granted the right to vote.

ehhhhhhh

How about this? People on welfare or government assistant shouldn’t vote

if it were me there would be a list of slightly more simple requirements to vote *all* of which would have to be met, and a list of things that would automatically get you banned from voting

Essentially, freeloaders btfo

And an ID should be required for voting as well

You need an ID to do damn near everything else

^

Illegals should be tossed into the ocean Change My Mind

^

And the things is I understand its not likely to have a 100% white ethnostate

Requirements:
stable employment for at least 1 year
above the age of 18 (maybe that should be raised idk)
birth certificate and photographic identification
certificate of passing a voting test (something not too easy but not insanely detailed about the importance of voting and shit like that)
being first on the list for a draft if we go to war

Things that get you banned from voting:
you, your parents, or 2 or more of your grandparents being born outside of the united states
committing any felony or any *violent* misdemeanor
accepting government assistance ie welfare or foodstamps
being in any form of debt to any bank, credit union, or government agency or entity (personal debts not included)

You wanna drink this wine? Gib ID.
You wanna vote for the future and welfare of the nation? Right this way

that would be my voting policy

but i think its more than possible to have say 80% white

Well i believe part of the reason the voting age was lowered was because of vietnam

There will never be a 100% white ethnostate in the US, no. But 80% is definitely achievable and not an autistic idea.

80% white or more is ideal imo

"you can die for your country but you cant vote"

so

i mean make the politics just right and the minorities will just leave

yeah thats the reasoning behind that

still cant drink... well at least not legally heheh

rate my voting restrictions fellas

It probably sounds weird coming from a black person, but the facts are the facts and this country hasn’t gotten any better when the white population began to dip and the minority population skyrocketed

Not sure about a test

Just means you aren't a brainlet small al.

i was torn between a test and a certificate of general education

just implementing voter ID would work wonders

ty

be that a high school diploma or ged

or something like that

I mean by 18 yeah you should be graduated or about to graduate

They should also be able to speak English and have to pass an English test

i mean that should be

well here

enforced for way more than just voting

No “just got my citizenship” spics coming in and voting for whoever caters to their parasite lifestyle

lets put all that citizenship test esque stuff in the process of getting a voting ID

Things that get you banned from voting:
you, your parents, or 2 or more of your grandparents being born outside of the united states

this

this right here

super important

Bring back literacy test