the polls leading up to the election had hillary leading the popular vote by about 3%

Same case in Sweden

and she won the popular vote by about 2%

very close

it is just that the results of the polls were interpreted incorrectly

The Swedish Nationalist Party polls lower but gets way more votes than what the polls predict

people didn't take into account the dynamics involved with the electoral college

Its amazingly close considering the population of the cities

Not necessarily. People in the government have explicitly barred any attempts at validating the citizenship of registered voters, and the "voter fraud" research they've done has never involved actually going through the fucking registry and validating the citizenship of people who vote.

Polls are retarded

I read somewhere that almost 40% of people in California voted Trump

Polls showed trump would lose polls showed remain would win polls showed labour would win in australia all wrong polls are a lie

Just because Hillary Clinton "wins" the popular vote, that doesn't mean eligible voters supported her over Trump. Quite frankly, I'm not willing to "believe" any of our elections until we validate the voter registry and purge anyone who can't verify citizenship.

well most people in california probably voted for trump, clinton got votes from hispanics, blacks, and thots, not people

That's because the polls were retardedly conducted, intentionally or not

the popular vote isn't necessarily indicative of popular will since the presence of the electoral college affects how people vote and how politicians campaign

@Death in June except about 1/3 of all Mexican-Americans voted for Trump

I think California and New York had a fuckload of illegals and noncitizens voting when they shouldn't have been, and I'm going to hold that belief until they go through their registry, name by name, and then arrest anyone who shows up that isn't a citizen.

Since the democrats removed voter id from their states on purpose I wouldn't be surprised if they'd lose popular vote without illegals

well and that is also without getting into what constitutes popular will of course

They've never once done a name-by-name check of the voter registry in ANY state, and they really need to.

Does California have voter ID laws?

No, and Cali gave driver IDs to illegals, which they can use to register to vote.

They are a sanctuary city thats probably a big fuck no

So don't believe shit in the election numbers coming out of California.

The election numbers CANNOT be trusted. Not until they validate the registry.

Sanctuary cities are literally criminal

Its the sate gov helping criminals its unfucking acceptable

Until we get a name-by-name validation, where people have to prove their citizenship to remain on the rolls (Hell, the DNC can pony up the cash and volunteer hours to assist people in finding documents), I'm not going to believe the results of any election, especially coming from places like New York and California.

I think it's unfair to blame the Hillary votes on black people and Mexicans, since about 1/3 of Mexican Americans voted Trump and so did a large portion of black people.

The mayors of one of the cities even told all the illegals that ICE was coming in their city

Its downright treasonous stuff

Helping foreign nationals

Obviously the illegals voted Hillary, there's no way they'd ever vote Trump

We don't even know how many illegals there are because they are illegal

It could easily be the 2 mil that Hillary had over trump on the popular vote though

Even though the dems should have won the pop vote by a larger margin considering the population of blue states

Well I'll be honest... we've all heard the stories of Democrats being charged with literally committing election fraud in state and local elections, so why would that not happen in a presidential election?

@Swedishmafia101 - Black people have given their votes to the DNC since polls fucking started. Even in 1956, the year of the "Southern Manifesto," literally a year after the death of Emmet Till, black people STILL voted Democrat. All that happened when Democrats stopped lynching black people, is that their share of the black vote went from 61% all the way to 90%+, and it's been there ever since.

It'd happen more since they start campaigning like fucking 18 months before the election

When Democrats stopped lynching black people, they went from 60%+ of the black vote to 90%+.

That, and a lot of Southern Whites told the DNC to go to hell.

But make no mistake: Even when Democrats are literally hanging black men from trees, they STILL get the black vote. That will never, ever, change. Not in our lifetimes.

Ok, blackpilled boi

Black people hate the Republican Party so much they'll vote for a pro-lynching segregationist Democrat over a milquetoast neo-con.

I want to say there should be federal action for voter id

But like was mentioned earlier they help illegals get drivers license which can be used as or to get id for voting

So I don't even know what to do about that

God the democrats are so obstructionist against American interests

There's a clip out there of the head of the California legislature openly admitting that half his family are in the nation illegally, working on fake social security cards and fake ID cards.

They are inside out

They hate America and love everything that isn't America

Kevin De Leon, I think his name was.

Openly admitted, in the middle of the fucking legislature, that his family could just go down to the park and get all of the documents they need. Driver's license. Social security card. Everything you need to vote or hold a job.

A lot of black people live in poor and impoverished communities (in Democrat cities obviously) and are ideologically enslaved because their Democrat politicians have been telling them "we will make things better for you" since the dawn of time

I think its because of their parallel culture

Nah

Yeah actually its more like

The Dems always talk about how they are for **the blacks**

That is why I don't trust elections.

"Will of the people" means shit to me. All I care about is results, and I'd support a monarchy if that gave us a better outcome. All I care about is results, and I don't care which system we need to get there.

The Dems want to keep black people miserable to have them keep voting for them

But that only works because they see themselves as outsiders in their own nation rather then as Americans

Dems have a super perverse incentive structure: Poor people and single moms tend to vote Democrat, so that gives them a direct incentive to keep people poor and to break up the American family.

Sure, they're fucking over children and a fuckload of the most vulnerable Americans, but when mothers don't have a dad in the house to help them raise kids, a ton of people are homeless, and everyone's raging over their shitty situation, all you have to do is promise results.

You don't even have to DELIVER on those results, as long as people think you care.

Hence: Elections are bullshit.

Which is because both their own parallel culture and the dems encouraging them to form race based parallel cultures so the dems can then appeal to race based parallel cultures

I dont think so

It is big think that dems have been saying they'll save Chicago for 50 years and its still a hellscape

I dont think it's just the black people's fault

Oh, I agree.

Tons of whites need to go too.

I don't think its their fault at all really

They are actually told by everyone to be that way

That's true

Black and Hispanics are very conservative but don't vote that way because of peer pressure

Government benefits. On the net, black people benefit while white people pay more than they get back.

Like way more conservative then the republican party

It's all about the money.

Even black people who are well off, tend to rely on the state for their income. The only difference is that it's a government job instead of a welfare check.

Or a government contractor with a diversity mandate.

Errr I don't agree with all of that

But

this has convinced me to become an ancap

The state is pointless

One of the reasons they always vote dem is because dems give them free shit

because it's run by balck people

And since the majority of blacks in America are poor most of them do actually get to use that money

I like the idea of having a state. I just don't think it should be a Democracy in the way we understand Democratic systems today. I COULD be convinced of the merits of a weighted Democracy, where we have some kind of civic knowledge test that determines the weighting of each vote.

Weighting of votes sounds awful if you want to go that way just do you got to pass a test probably one of those tests they make foreigners pass before coming US citizens I bet half of US citizens would probably fail lol

Want to make it carrot and stick?

Make it mandatory to vote and then make it have requirements of knowledge to vote, lol

@Samaritan - Weighted voting allows everyone to have a say, but the village idiot has less of a say. It's effectively a half-measure in between "everyone having an equal say" and "only qualified people having a say."

Nigga you gotta learn

@Arthur Grayborn yeah but, niggers

Its the most easily abusable system possible though

Like you're a racist your vote counts 1/4th as much

Not necessarily. Cheating rates on the SAT and ACT exam are extremely low.

that's asking for corruption

Because your a bigot

Boom

You literally should just not let people vote if they don't met certain requirements

like we already do