So, it is a story, to show the plight of man.

Seriously have any of you been to church or opened a Bible in the last 15 years

@Jake the Exile me

To the latter, yes, but not the former, except when I donated some food to their kitchen

#metoo

The local church by me is seriously just a bunch of cool fucking people

You have to go out of your way to misconstrue things to ignore the Bible.

I have been to 5 different doctrines of Christianity and 1 paganist event

Hey, never said ignore the bible. I just say ignore the people who try to claim it's the reason for being, and the only reason to live.

the temple used to be my church but all they talk about is rape and ponies now

@Lios I like the way that you had to become the protaganist to form the debate and angle of agreement. In a Christian world, we are given freedom of choice.

It is the fair thing in the modern era. Didn't used to be the case. Actually, the point just before they are now were exceedingly terrifying. Witch hunts and inquisitions... hoo boy.

Well it has been fun but I need to clean and eat. I love debates and I think that, I have learned alot about this whole: where do we go from here

The crusades were just political with a religious bend

Where do we go? Towards the heavens.

We all agree on it, but not always in the same way.

raid the vatican , not area51

It _is_ a good way to get money in Crusader Kings 2....

This another reason why I cannot get the blend right because I want to play 1914 or that Europe game ... I need to try both campagins to see if we can come out with the nice blend we have today.

It smells of autonomy

And there’s the issue. You do not fear god.

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@Weez Why do we need to fear god? I mean, that was the old ways. We are talking about evolving. So that we accept gay marriage and we accept other things like Lutheranism is teaching.

could this be like a ghostbusters/marshmallow man situation going on

Fuck Catholism and Islam.

@juts kill nme I could murder a marshmellow round about now.

We’re “evolving” (regressing) in the wrong direction. God kept us on track, he kept us moral.

Yes and that is the argument of different doctrines

gay marriage should have been called "garriage"

We shouldn’t accept gay marriage. It’s a disgrace on gods union. No gay people could even marry, it’s impossible for them in the definition of marriage.

and be separate

the closet is quite satisfactory .. now all the gay gone

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_Lutheranism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89OdBeMDTE8

Same sex marriages are performed in Germany because of Lutheranism

So you can only do that in those churches

It is Lutheranism that accepts LGBTQ rights even in America-

Our historical institutional structures are being eroded by degeneracy.

🤢

I prefer to have some form of religion involved in this transition. It takes us away from Islam.

Islam is a very strong and unified religion in terms of expansion. we should be looking at it and learning from it.

Not looking to move away.

The more we grow apart from that stone age religion. The more I think they will do to stomp them out for good. They will put in your border control papers that you're not compatiable.

No thanks Weez. I am for the new ... not the old.

What use is your decadent, degenerate culture if it’s replaced by a stronger one.

There is no use.

I think that is the way that it is becoming for the UK as they have 39 church of England bishops in the house of Lords.

You’re “for the new” - A progressive I see.

I think they will be able to like you say .... progress and make sure, Islam doesn't control social freedoms.

I am not for Christianity but it allows me to be free and choose.

Yet puts you on a path and the culture on a path of destruction.

Point and case. Gay priests.

@Weez 1 Corinthians 10
** The Believer’s Freedom **

``23 “I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but not everything is constructive. 24 No one should seek their own good, but the good of others. 25 Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience, 26 for, “The earth is the Lord’s, and everything in it.” 27 If an unbeliever invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is put before you without raising questions of conscience. 28 But if someone says to you, “This has been offered in sacrifice,” then do not eat it, both for the sake of the one who told you and for the sake of conscience. 29 I am referring to the other person’s conscience, not yours. For why is my freedom being judged by another’s conscience? ``

Accepting and allowing gay marriage in their churches.

I have a conscience ... I do not want other religions being in control.

full stop.

Weez' definition of a "weak culture":
>Could hypothetically destroy all of the Middle East at any time and likely not be destroyed as a consequence

Yet your religion facilitates other religions.

...

You're so strong, so powerful, so dominant, YET!

The almighty YET

@ETBrooD “could” do a lot of things. We’re not are we?

Yeah we're not

Just as the powerful should

And who’s fault is that?

lol

I would like to say to peoplø, if you like Islam... go to the middle east.... other than that... you do not belong in the west. This is what we teach

You want us to bomb the ME?

That's a good idea?

Not really.

Then wdym "who's fault is that"?

Whos fault is it that we’re having the multicultural issues we’re having today?

Still the strongest world power

They kill their own. We do not need to bomb them.

I don't see the issue

the almighty YET has been bastardized for shekels

Not for long.

hahaha

See, China.

How so?

Uh, ok. So another world power is getting really strong, and?

China has a growing christian population of 252 million

They’re becoming *the* next superpower.

I think you are wasting your time arguing as they are trying to stomp islam out using extreme ways

Ideally all world powers are equally strong so none can dominate the other

They’re doing it for all religion. Some more aggressively. @TEABAG!!!

China know how Islam kills people

like china

The west is already in the process of waking up. Progressivism isn't moving an inch forward anymore. Islam is the main threat, but we're reacting to it very allergically, it won't go on forever. It'll at worst cause a war, but not a fall of the west.

China is doing it because they want the ‘Communist party’ to remain in power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=5m0yv6N8sAU

@ETBrooD Yeah, I disagree with that one.

And what are you basing that on?

Your prediction

“Progressivism isn’t moving an inch forward”

What are you basing that statement on?

We're seeing a huge backlash against progressivism

Where?

@ETBrooD only way to do that is let lutheranism take over the politics and push muslims out. That is the only way to do it.