Hitler was also nice when he wasn't yelling at the top of his lungs to destroy his enemies

Really? Heaven is exclusive and has border security? WHo would have thought

I do not think you belong in this discussion because you do not believe in Gay people having choices if you like Hitler.

wat

Are you daft 😄

i thought hitler was a cunt .. he nice now?

He had dogs

Clearly a nice man

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@Jake the Exile I think that borders are there to establish goood and evil. This is represented in other paganist religions also. Even Buddism

so did that guy from got

Man it would suck to have picked the wrong religion and not get into their heaven. :^)

There is always a wrong and a right in every religion or belief structure has been for centuries

Man it would suck if it turns out God hated the Bible

Ohfuckohfuckohfuck

@Lios So you hedge your bets by picking none of them... really wise.

I'm a rebel. Sue me.

You know that if you don't write anything on the test, you still fail the test.

It would suck so much if it turned out God didn't command the ten commandments

I will be my own man, not the man you demand I be.

https://www.learnreligions.com/highway-to-heaven-1770053

ohfuckohfuckohfuckohfuckohfuck *Christian sweating intensifies*

@Jake the Exile Even Hinduism has a heaven and hell. But they strongly believe in reincarnation.

I still argue that Satan did all of the work and has fooled them all. He is known for being horrible, and what we see being done by "god" is some pretty horrible stuff.

While Satan hardly does shit

http://www.komalaamorim.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Kali-copy-cropped-2.jpg

What if by following the bible you actually fell for Satan's ploy and get into the more exclusive realm of Hell?

@ETBrooD The Mormon elite already tried that, they said everyone else was wrong and that for some reason he let the church be wrong and perish from the earth for thousands of years until he and he alone came along and wrote total bullshit about Egyptians.

@Lios Good and bad is represented in every religion including paganism. I just used Hinduism as an example.

What if god is _way_ more benevolent than what Christians were led to believe, but Satan tricked them all into thinking it was all the bad stuff?

They call me evil for mentioning different paganisms but I will do this for the druids

He is the great deceiver after all

A God that could revive everybody thousands of years later wouldn't be afraid of people dying.

But nobody's soul dies, their body does. Their death just entails the path to the next realm, supposedly.

So.. people dying is not a reason to say that God doesn't exist. If He stepped in too early you'd just say he was petty and impatient.

He was pretty fucking impatient with that flood.

what if this is/was the next realm?

We're _far_ worse now than we were then

He was pissed and it was still early enough in the genome to reset.

Ah, the "God has a plan" argument

Reminds me of certain cults

That and we needed some time to get seperate continents.

When your religious figure shows to be likely fallible, just invent a bullshit reason to make him infallible again

I still like the idea that God is actually a failed and rejected alien scientist, and we're just his latest experiment he's trying to use to get himself back into the society

But he's still failing at it

No, it's called God gives people a chance at a one-world government on Pangaea, and when it gets fucked up he scrambles the world and makes people grow up on seperate continents so they don't tear each other apart.

Didn't work

Failed scientist

It is the druids that believed in the after life and if you are British ... you would known that is your pagan ancestory path.

** Druids and the Afterlife **

``The Druids believe that the souls of men are immortal, and that after a number of years they live a second life when the soul passes into another body. "Men's souls and the universe are indestructible, although at times fire and water may prevail". Souls do not become extinct, but pass after death from one body to another.

Nature herself teaches us much about reincarnation. Watch the cycles of the seasons sometime and you will clearly see it. First we have springtime in which the earth replenishes itself and gives birth to new life forms. The trees give birth to new leaves, flowers bloom, and new plants spring up all around us. In summer and fall, the crops are harvested. In winter the earth rests, and everything dies or lies dormant, only to be reborn come spring. New plants arise from old seedlings, new leaves sprout on old trees.

Reincarnation can be compared to cosmic recycling. For instance, ice melts, changing into water. Water can then be heated and turned into steam which goes up into the air to be recycled as rain. Like ice and water, we die and our (spirit) energy leaves our bodies, returning to the Cosmos and then we are re-cycled or re-born into a new form or body.``

Not reading that

We don't have a one-world government yet.

Kaiju sighted

http://www.findacamp.com.au/search-camp-sites.php?pc=NALPA_SA_5255

@ETBrooD Because you do not want to discuss druidism?

Druids are for DnD.

No because you take up too much space in every conversation you're in by posting walls of text frequently

Nalpasah Dog

It's annoying and I don't care

And the fact that druidism also affected the Church of England and Lutheranism?

@juts kill nme What you did there? I see it.

If you don't respect other people enough to take up at least somewhat similar space in a conversation and not randomly drop a wall of text that you didn't even write yourself in that conversation, then you gotta learn it by people telling you they're not reading your walls of text

I think Paganism has been respected through Lutheranism more so than under Catholism. I think all countries need their forms of evolution of Christianity

A God who gives humanity a second chance with different conditions to prove or refine his self-aware creation is not fallibility in his part. You may as well say humanity created the flood that wiped them out. But that's not an argument I've ever heard except in disaster movies.

No, it's always used as a jab at God.

But if you're right and it's not God, then what was it?

Less plausible than the actual historical approximation of an Arab king's river flooding and him fleeing to a nearby city with his town's livestock.

Embellishing is great for PR.

@Jake the Exile I mean, I am for us being aware that nature can be unpredictable. I think that the bible shows this, there are other forms of pagan religions that forecast the destruction. But no one finds this interesting anymore. I think that even if you have multiple Gods, you have to show you're thankful in certain relgions for crop circulation and growth. It is like a prewarning that we as a collective are not connecting with the land anymore. We are disassociating our responsiblity.

That still doesn't explain why someone would for no reason build a boat, give it proprtional specifications for buoyancy, coat it inside and out with resin to waterproof it, and then expect a gigantic flood while every one of your neighbors makes fun of you for building a boat a hundred miles inland.

@Lios oel ngati kameie

Not exactly what was said in the original story

And the Celtic world are Druids for those who are not aware. Hence, they do make a really good compatable section of life in Ireland and the UK.

Nor would it matter if you were a king and demanded your scribe embellish the fuck out of it

There is no king in this story.

There was in a historical approximation that led to the writing of the event in the era.

im sure no matter what our beliefs , we can all agree to say a prayer for the people about to die at the hands of Dorian 🙏

@Jake the Exile I think the story of the Ark is a bit far fetched and also, Noah, didn't all of a sudden grow food on that ark. It is very far fetched, but like all stories and films, it is supposed to symbolise - nature can turn on you and you need to be prepared.

I take the god part of it out because, people have the right to choose. They could have gotten on the ark... they chose not to.

Fucker lefts the unicorns behind, so he gets no sympathy from me

If a king built an ark to protect his stuff in a flood, he wouldn't take ONLY seven mating pairs of each edible animal and bird. Kings in those days had thousands of sheep and donkeys and camels, just compare it to the royalty and rich farmers in the rest of the Bible.

I think it rather teaches people to be complete lunatics with no scientific evidence

Not a very good teaching for young impressionable minds

Would've been better if the story went like this

Noah builds arc, flood never comes, he dies of old age, the end

Kind of like doomsday preppers?

Exactly

You still talking about Christianity and such?

know as Arc ? 🌩

@Lios What I'm saying is your hypothesis makes no sense. Noah was not a king, he did not have a lot of help. If it were embellished in the way kings of that day did, he would brag about how many servants he had when no servants were mentioned at all, it was a family undertaking with his three sons and their spouses.

mind welding?

My argument is that there was no Noah, just an overly embellished bard's tale carried throughout towards religious text.

I'd say there was a Jesus, but fuck me I cannot find evidence of a Noah

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ImprobableDelectableEuropeanfiresalamander-max-1mb.gif

@Jake the Exile I think it is mentioned in Lam-rim in Buddhism

@Lios It is a story, that is meant to help you prepare collectively for disasters

And also make you fear God

If you have like englightening thinking.

I think that was the major point of it

I do not fear God.

But this story doesn't have a "be prepared" moral, it has a "trust God even when he says soemthing crazy is going to happen" moral.