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2019-09-01 09:25:41 UTC

Evolution is not open to being questioned.

2019-09-01 09:25:45 UTC

We are better than monkeys

2019-09-01 09:25:49 UTC

I will never like to see people not been given choice, like they have in this second evolution cycle of the UK which has included gay marriage

2019-09-01 09:25:50 UTC

We're also not monkeys

2019-09-01 09:25:55 UTC

We're primates, sure, but not monkeys

2019-09-01 09:26:10 UTC

We discovered that, and learned it by disproving skeptical claims

2019-09-01 09:26:45 UTC

By the end of the day the Church of England in the house of lords has been able to change and reform education, so that the state enforces power of acceptance on to islamic extremists

2019-09-01 09:26:55 UTC

Science takes the basis of "I might be wrong, but..."
The whole idea is that we might be wrong. We're fucking stupid. We're humans. Lets start learning, instead of making up a bullshit answer to make the problem disappear.

2019-09-01 09:26:58 UTC

Darwin expected his theory to be proven by a near-endless supply of missing links, which we have not found.

2019-09-01 09:27:12 UTC

We've found giant wombats.

2019-09-01 09:27:51 UTC

Well yeah. Darwin was the father of the scientific method and skepticism. Neither of which he actually intended. People called him out on his bullshit, but looked into it anyway.

2019-09-01 09:27:53 UTC

I was against it when I was younger but now I am for the Church of England having more power in the UK. I am also for, all forms of cultural indegenious people in Europe having more control than Islam.

2019-09-01 09:28:16 UTC

There's no solid evidence for evolution, it's all semantics as to what's related to what. If you question that you're thrown out as a religious zealot. That's not malleable.

2019-09-01 09:28:17 UTC

He was not a great genius, but we must thank him for his ignorance, as it drove us to become more precise.

2019-09-01 09:28:21 UTC

"Science is not always correct, and some scientists are dogmatic, therefore scientific theories are no better than Christianity"

2019-09-01 09:28:23 UTC

Islam is unrefined dogma.

2019-09-01 09:28:51 UTC

There's plenty of very solid evidence for evolution

2019-09-01 09:28:58 UTC

Very little of that comes from Darwin.

2019-09-01 09:29:04 UTC

We're seeing the endgame of that by being thrown out for believing in biology. The SJWs are in control of the higher institutions now.

2019-09-01 09:29:13 UTC

The Darwin theory and other evolutionary things can be discussed when people find it within themselves to understand, Christianity teaches people they have freedoms of choice. Hence, the reason why the UK and the rest of Europe is prodominatly liberal.

2019-09-01 09:29:13 UTC

Because we know today what he didn't and found out he was kind of just babbling

2019-09-01 09:29:20 UTC

No amount of facts is going to kick the feminists out.

2019-09-01 09:29:27 UTC

Well yeah, they hate facts

2019-09-01 09:29:30 UTC

Kind of like Christianity

2019-09-01 09:29:32 UTC

Just like no amount of facts kicked the Darwinists out.

2019-09-01 09:29:40 UTC

That's a good thing though

2019-09-01 09:29:47 UTC

Science would suck if it didn't kick them out

2019-09-01 09:30:05 UTC

Or did, rather

2019-09-01 09:30:32 UTC

I think Feminists would also have a problem if there was a religious sect in power in the country as well because they would enforce ideologies of traditions on couples; gay and straight.

2019-09-01 09:30:41 UTC

Nice thing about science is never taking on a messiah. Just idolizing someone who learned something amazing, and going from there.

2019-09-01 09:30:52 UTC

Science is not fucked with the theory of god.

2019-09-01 09:31:08 UTC

Then why the infighting?

2019-09-01 09:31:08 UTC

It is in some parts. There is still the argument of "what if, tho"

2019-09-01 09:31:33 UTC

Still an unknown to us.

2019-09-01 09:31:33 UTC

Christians are openly mocked and history denied.

2019-09-01 09:31:33 UTC

If you look at the bible, it is like it is trying to already symbolise that there was a process of evolution.

2019-09-01 09:31:40 UTC

But as it is unknown, the skeptic arrangement is don't say it _is_ known

2019-09-01 09:32:01 UTC

I think, some christians have not read the bible properly which is very telling.

2019-09-01 09:32:02 UTC

The first thing out of the serpent's mouth was skepticism

2019-09-01 09:32:10 UTC

"Did god really say "

2019-09-01 09:32:57 UTC

Penn Jilette: "Nothing will turn you into an atheist faster than reading the bible"

2019-09-01 09:33:11 UTC

Of course and the whole point of Eve eating the apple is that she was the forbidden fruit .... all explained by Terry Prachett

2019-09-01 09:33:30 UTC

ALso Jillete: "The Holocaust proves there is no God"

2019-09-01 09:34:01 UTC

Really, people dying for thousands of years beforehand didn't count

2019-09-01 09:34:04 UTC

Out of context, he was arguing in the point that "if god was benevolent"

2019-09-01 09:34:05 UTC

by the end of the day people have to be taught this stuff in the west as children so they have connection to humanity

2019-09-01 09:34:28 UTC

God is benevolent, man screwed up by listening to skepticism.

2019-09-01 09:34:36 UTC

God sure as fuck isn't benevolent.

2019-09-01 09:34:54 UTC

No benevolent creature kills babies and blames the parents for him killing their babies

2019-09-01 09:34:58 UTC

God is not the serpent

2019-09-01 09:35:15 UTC

The whole part of being human is to be connected to something, other than our selves. I think, God is just a vessel. There are many gods. But I think people need to understand that there is evil as well as good.

2019-09-01 09:35:24 UTC

The serpant was a demon

2019-09-01 09:35:28 UTC

God is Satan, just gonna say it. Satan has been God the whole time.

2019-09-01 09:35:36 UTC

Like Terry Pratchett suggested

2019-09-01 09:35:58 UTC

We don't have hero worship, we just hold Terry Pratchett above God

2019-09-01 09:36:04 UTC

As we should

2019-09-01 09:36:26 UTC

No pal @Lios. That is like saying Odin is satan and Loki doesn't exsit

2019-09-01 09:36:26 UTC

Would Terry Pratchett exist in a Muslim world?

2019-09-01 09:36:34 UTC

NO

2019-09-01 09:36:39 UTC

Polytheism is not a fair implement

2019-09-01 09:36:50 UTC

Polytheism is superior, and not a good matchup

2019-09-01 09:37:24 UTC

Straight up we are able to compare, contrast, have scientific beliefs, philosophy all evolving, through christianity-

2019-09-01 09:37:30 UTC

Really? Polytheism is the basis of superstition. It's finding something new to blame

2019-09-01 09:37:33 UTC

Except for the Roman polytheism... That was incredibly dull.

2019-09-01 09:37:56 UTC

Well yeah, that's the whole point of religion. Stupid stories to tell people in order to blame things on something and shut people up when they have a problem.

2019-09-01 09:38:56 UTC

Polytheism is just more creative. Disregard the superior art formed of Christian culture and society, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

2019-09-01 09:39:00 UTC

@Lios They are parables not stupid stories. Fables are different and are based on fictional characters who are not of this realm

2019-09-01 09:39:06 UTC

Look there has always been good and bad to everything. There has always been consquences.

2019-09-01 09:39:46 UTC

Monotheism, on the other hand, is trusting that everything is in control and that the world is bigger than you.

2019-09-01 09:39:55 UTC

There are a lot of people in this discussion who would prefer to have Christianity be more involved in Europe to keep out the bad

2019-09-01 09:40:24 UTC

Trusting that everything is in control is just complacency. Complacency is by default an inevitable problem.

2019-09-01 09:40:49 UTC

Complacency is exploited, clung to, and died grasping.

2019-09-01 09:40:51 UTC

No, ahving faith through a difficult situation that directly affects you, is what trusting God is for.

2019-09-01 09:41:21 UTC

@Jake the Exile That is one doctrine of christianity: monotheism that I am trying to insist need to be involved in these discussions. As they do not vote

2019-09-01 09:41:25 UTC

That's still complacency. Cali punk is coming out; "Fuck this problem, someone fix it"

2019-09-01 09:42:01 UTC

When you have a self-reliant revolt culture, what does that get you?

2019-09-01 09:42:19 UTC

If you're successful you become Attila the Hun.

2019-09-01 09:42:21 UTC

If you fail you're the commies.

2019-09-01 09:42:34 UTC

It is their choice to not vote. The bible tells you to be careful and be aware that there are two polar forces... good and evil.

2019-09-01 09:42:44 UTC

"the alternatives to my bad idea are all bad ideas"

2019-09-01 09:42:48 UTC

A potentially strong and stable society, or a potentially weak and fractured society. Everything gets us that.

2019-09-01 09:42:50 UTC

We're human, we fail. More often fail.

2019-09-01 09:43:01 UTC

Christianity is like selling a new smartphone

2019-09-01 09:43:20 UTC

The less you recognize yourself as a creature of natural origin, the less you can actually solve the damned problem.

2019-09-01 09:43:28 UTC

You don't reinvent the wheel , you just assemble a SOC from whats available then try to sell it

2019-09-01 09:44:25 UTC

You are either incredibly dumb and do not understand European history, or, fickle. I cannot decide because you would rather just jump 1000 years to now

2019-09-01 09:44:26 UTC

Well, in favor of christianity's fanbase, they did end up becoming rather large and doing some rather beautiful things because of it.

2019-09-01 09:44:49 UTC

No Lios, you see

2019-09-01 09:45:04 UTC

You can only either hate all that Christianity has ever done, or you must love it

2019-09-01 09:45:10 UTC

That's proper argumentation you see

2019-09-01 09:45:31 UTC

Or I can take the outside-the-box position, and say that both sides should probably just... fade away.

2019-09-01 09:45:40 UTC

Nah that's not black and white enough

2019-09-01 09:45:50 UTC

I am saying that Christianity reformed itself because it could not get on with all the Pagans in Europe. First it was Roman Catholism... then it branched off to Lutheranism

2019-09-01 09:45:52 UTC

NO, proper argumentation is saying the other side believes in absolutely nothing factual and denying all of ancient history to support his edgelord lifestyle

2019-09-01 09:45:52 UTC

Oh no, it's the blacker-than-black position

2019-09-01 09:46:01 UTC

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2019-09-01 09:46:16 UTC

I think that you ignorning all those aspects makes you dumb

2019-09-01 09:46:29 UTC

>denies Jesus
"You're denying ALL OF ancient history!"

2019-09-01 09:47:14 UTC

I prefer episcopalians. They were the first to be cool with "them gays" in modern society.

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