"lets rub lemons on our foreheads to cure headaches", "lets rape virgins to cure diseases", "lets wipe from behind when we shit"

you know witch trials right?

Traditions, yo, totally the way we do stuff

😂

i don't see how witch trials are representative of tradition as a whole

how widespread were they anyhow

the reason we as humans have progressed as far as to drop someone on the moon, and take pictures of pluto is that we build on wisdom, not accept it at face value and never evolve it

Take beer industry as an example

with extremely few exceptions, beers that have not had significant recipe changes in the last hundred years taste like shit today

Because ideas, processes and concepts have evolved and built on each other

building on wisdom is a very different concept from discarding it

tradition as a static meme, or idea passed down ,is rubbish

and in any case you're also providing examples of things that have very concrete scientific answers involved

you should be replacing it with a better one, not carrying it forward

everything has concrete scientific/statistical answers

not really

yeah really

the long term affect of all sorts of cultural norms do not

both the acceptance and rejection of them

culture is cancer

what does that even mean

and should be discarded withour remorse

I mean the individual should not have to adhere to expectations, norms, traditions, anything.

the protection of culture is a religion that causes conflict between groups

that's just part and parcel of living in a society my guy

I don't adhere to culture and do just fine

respecting others doesn't mean I must assimilate a culture

so you're saying you don't respect any expectations or norms

I respect but to not expect.

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expectations and norms are constructs that restrict the free-flow of ideas and growth of individuals, collectives and society as a whole

Is this debates or general?

the flow of ideas only exists because of expectations and norms

no

the conflict of the flow of ideas rises from expectations and norms

omfg u sound like a pseudo intellectual faggot

shut the fuck up

jesus

so if you think for example that there weren't norms seeing certain forms of violence as being unacceptable that this would not impede the flow of ideas?

neat... so the queen agreed to shut down parliament?

Good

Yes, that's an extreme tangent of the cycle, but a small price to pay - violence against others as a way to curtail the flow of thought is sinful I'd say, but I can't say I know how to approach it beyond "yeah don't physically threaten or do harm with the intent of stifling the free flow of ideas"

that'd be a democratic law rather than a cultural norm or tradition

a democratic law that arises from a cultural norm

Which is why I am pro life, I don't think abortion should be legal since it stifles the free will and ideas of the unborn person.

It doesn't have to arise from a cultural norm

just a product of debate

what are the benefits of violence

what are the demerits of violence

what are the reasons to protect it

okay im blocking this fgt

and what are the reason not to

i don't see how something arising from debate precludes it from being a cultural norm

I don't think it is necesary to be a cultural norm, and believe that a cultural norm negatively influences the free form of ideas

i mean, it could not be a cultural norm in the sense it could be imposed from above onto a populace who doesn't hold it to be a cultural norm

but that would certainly seem to be at odds with the idea of this being "democratic" law

An example, in the United States, and other Eugenics countries, the cultural norm became "cousin fucking is the cause of all retardation". therefore the debate centered around should cousins be allowed to fuck because the society accepted a norm and tradition that was not real, but was cultural.

The same with the criminalization of drugs, a product of norm and tradition

Or marriage, or protection of certain types of commodities as exceptions to rules

Are irish the niggers of the britistan kaliphate?

i mean i would say that a lot of drug laws seem to be moreso the product of capitalism, manifested in a top-down manner

What are your opinions on an independent Acadian state in northern New Brunswick and coastal Quebec?

"tradition that was not real, but was cultural"
i don't know what this means

they were a product of bottom up outrage, expectations, projecting and ignorance born in the inherent norms and cultures of society.

Take. This. To. DMs.

I don't do DM

ew i'm not gonna dm a guy do you think i'm gay or somethin

^^^^

You’re straight as fuck

Faggot

i mean it seems odd that marijuana for example didn't start to become illegal until the 20th century

Yes, because people were seeing the rapid advance of civil liberties, counter culture and free thought and needed something to blame, targeting the new generation of free thinkers

ooof https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1166751458668232704?s=20

It was all well and good as long as you could turn a blind eye to it an believe that tradition was safe

You don't get it
When Epstein fucked the sacrificial virgin, he crossed the line
He upset the Baal and clintons had no choice

in any case what is the distinction between "real" and "cultural"?

real is empirically provable and reproducible

cultural is traditional thought with no foundation

so by real you just mean science

"it is as it is because it is so" vs "this is why it is, and you can test this to see it too"

One is a descriptor opposite of "fictional", "imaginary", "made up"
And the other is a signifier of the thing belonging to a culture

A thing can be both at the same time, neither, or any combination of those

i don't think that unscientific knowledge is necessarily without foundation

I think it should be questioned and not blindly followed

Same with science

it should be tested retested and challenged

Yall are already in a cult of Sargon

Yall are fucked

but it is much more trust worthy since it is actually tested

but there's a big difference between not blindly following something and dismissing it outright

But can we trust the testers?

Testers are but mere humans

like the black guy that deradicalized KKK guys, they believed blacks were the problem, then met a black and through the experiment stopped their culture/tradition/norm

the problem with science is that most of the important decisions we make don't have scientific answers

because they never challenged the thought

because culture is the cancer of society, it is just the common thought that we do not question, the lies to children we accept

i mean it's obviously not something that isn't questioned as culture has been in a state of change since the dawn of history

Yes, most of KKK inherited the notion "black man crimed" and just believed in it because parents told them so

It took one black guy talking to them to change their view

A good part of black crime is a self-fulfilling prophecy tbh