Message from @Pygmalion

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2019-08-28 17:21:36 UTC  

yeah really

2019-08-28 17:22:03 UTC  

the long term affect of all sorts of cultural norms do not

2019-08-28 17:22:11 UTC  

both the acceptance and rejection of them

2019-08-28 17:22:13 UTC  

culture is cancer

2019-08-28 17:22:24 UTC  

what does that even mean

2019-08-28 17:22:40 UTC  

and should be discarded withour remorse

2019-08-28 17:22:59 UTC  

I mean the individual should not have to adhere to expectations, norms, traditions, anything.

2019-08-28 17:23:21 UTC  

the protection of culture is a religion that causes conflict between groups

2019-08-28 17:23:44 UTC  

that's just part and parcel of living in a society my guy

2019-08-28 17:23:57 UTC  

I don't adhere to culture and do just fine

2019-08-28 17:24:07 UTC  

respecting others doesn't mean I must assimilate a culture

2019-08-28 17:24:17 UTC  

so you're saying you don't respect any expectations or norms

2019-08-28 17:24:30 UTC  

I respect but to not expect.

2019-08-28 17:24:53 UTC  

?

2019-08-28 17:25:27 UTC  

expectations and norms are constructs that restrict the free-flow of ideas and growth of individuals, collectives and society as a whole

2019-08-28 17:26:35 UTC  

Is this debates or general?

2019-08-28 17:26:39 UTC  

the flow of ideas only exists because of expectations and norms

2019-08-28 17:26:46 UTC  

no

2019-08-28 17:26:59 UTC  

the conflict of the flow of ideas rises from expectations and norms

2019-08-28 17:27:37 UTC  

omfg u sound like a pseudo intellectual faggot

2019-08-28 17:27:39 UTC  

shut the fuck up

2019-08-28 17:27:40 UTC  

jesus

2019-08-28 17:27:42 UTC  

so if you think for example that there weren't norms seeing certain forms of violence as being unacceptable that this would not impede the flow of ideas?

2019-08-28 17:28:08 UTC  

neat... so the queen agreed to shut down parliament?

2019-08-28 17:28:17 UTC  

Good

2019-08-28 17:29:57 UTC  

Yes, that's an extreme tangent of the cycle, but a small price to pay - violence against others as a way to curtail the flow of thought is sinful I'd say, but I can't say I know how to approach it beyond "yeah don't physically threaten or do harm with the intent of stifling the free flow of ideas"

2019-08-28 17:30:29 UTC  

that'd be a democratic law rather than a cultural norm or tradition

2019-08-28 17:30:45 UTC  

a democratic law that arises from a cultural norm

2019-08-28 17:31:08 UTC  

Which is why I am pro life, I don't think abortion should be legal since it stifles the free will and ideas of the unborn person.

2019-08-28 17:31:18 UTC  

It doesn't have to arise from a cultural norm

2019-08-28 17:31:22 UTC  

just a product of debate

2019-08-28 17:31:29 UTC  

what are the benefits of violence

2019-08-28 17:31:36 UTC  

what are the demerits of violence

2019-08-28 17:31:42 UTC  

what are the reasons to protect it

2019-08-28 17:31:43 UTC  

okay im blocking this fgt

2019-08-28 17:31:46 UTC  

and what are the reason not to

2019-08-28 17:32:17 UTC  

i don't see how something arising from debate precludes it from being a cultural norm

2019-08-28 17:32:42 UTC  

I don't think it is necesary to be a cultural norm, and believe that a cultural norm negatively influences the free form of ideas

2019-08-28 17:33:24 UTC  

i mean, it could not be a cultural norm in the sense it could be imposed from above onto a populace who doesn't hold it to be a cultural norm

2019-08-28 17:33:37 UTC  

but that would certainly seem to be at odds with the idea of this being "democratic" law

2019-08-28 17:33:49 UTC  

An example, in the United States, and other Eugenics countries, the cultural norm became "cousin fucking is the cause of all retardation". therefore the debate centered around should cousins be allowed to fuck because the society accepted a norm and tradition that was not real, but was cultural.