Message from @Pygmalion
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not really
yeah really
the long term affect of all sorts of cultural norms do not
both the acceptance and rejection of them
culture is cancer
what does that even mean
and should be discarded withour remorse
I mean the individual should not have to adhere to expectations, norms, traditions, anything.
the protection of culture is a religion that causes conflict between groups
that's just part and parcel of living in a society my guy
I don't adhere to culture and do just fine
respecting others doesn't mean I must assimilate a culture
so you're saying you don't respect any expectations or norms
I respect but to not expect.
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expectations and norms are constructs that restrict the free-flow of ideas and growth of individuals, collectives and society as a whole
Is this debates or general?
the flow of ideas only exists because of expectations and norms
no
the conflict of the flow of ideas rises from expectations and norms
shut the fuck up
jesus
so if you think for example that there weren't norms seeing certain forms of violence as being unacceptable that this would not impede the flow of ideas?
neat... so the queen agreed to shut down parliament?
Good
Yes, that's an extreme tangent of the cycle, but a small price to pay - violence against others as a way to curtail the flow of thought is sinful I'd say, but I can't say I know how to approach it beyond "yeah don't physically threaten or do harm with the intent of stifling the free flow of ideas"
that'd be a democratic law rather than a cultural norm or tradition
a democratic law that arises from a cultural norm
Which is why I am pro life, I don't think abortion should be legal since it stifles the free will and ideas of the unborn person.
It doesn't have to arise from a cultural norm
just a product of debate
what are the benefits of violence
what are the demerits of violence
what are the reasons to protect it
okay im blocking this fgt
and what are the reason not to
i don't see how something arising from debate precludes it from being a cultural norm
I don't think it is necesary to be a cultural norm, and believe that a cultural norm negatively influences the free form of ideas
i mean, it could not be a cultural norm in the sense it could be imposed from above onto a populace who doesn't hold it to be a cultural norm
but that would certainly seem to be at odds with the idea of this being "democratic" law