Message from @Pygmalion

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2019-08-28 17:21:33 UTC  

not really

2019-08-28 17:21:36 UTC  

yeah really

2019-08-28 17:22:03 UTC  

the long term affect of all sorts of cultural norms do not

2019-08-28 17:22:11 UTC  

both the acceptance and rejection of them

2019-08-28 17:22:13 UTC  

culture is cancer

2019-08-28 17:22:24 UTC  

what does that even mean

2019-08-28 17:22:40 UTC  

and should be discarded withour remorse

2019-08-28 17:22:59 UTC  

I mean the individual should not have to adhere to expectations, norms, traditions, anything.

2019-08-28 17:23:21 UTC  

the protection of culture is a religion that causes conflict between groups

2019-08-28 17:23:44 UTC  

that's just part and parcel of living in a society my guy

2019-08-28 17:23:57 UTC  

I don't adhere to culture and do just fine

2019-08-28 17:24:07 UTC  

respecting others doesn't mean I must assimilate a culture

2019-08-28 17:24:17 UTC  

so you're saying you don't respect any expectations or norms

2019-08-28 17:24:30 UTC  

I respect but to not expect.

2019-08-28 17:24:53 UTC  

?

2019-08-28 17:25:27 UTC  

expectations and norms are constructs that restrict the free-flow of ideas and growth of individuals, collectives and society as a whole

2019-08-28 17:26:35 UTC  

Is this debates or general?

2019-08-28 17:26:39 UTC  

the flow of ideas only exists because of expectations and norms

2019-08-28 17:26:46 UTC  

no

2019-08-28 17:26:59 UTC  

the conflict of the flow of ideas rises from expectations and norms

2019-08-28 17:27:37 UTC  

omfg u sound like a pseudo intellectual faggot

2019-08-28 17:27:39 UTC  

shut the fuck up

2019-08-28 17:27:40 UTC  

jesus

2019-08-28 17:27:42 UTC  

so if you think for example that there weren't norms seeing certain forms of violence as being unacceptable that this would not impede the flow of ideas?

2019-08-28 17:28:08 UTC  

neat... so the queen agreed to shut down parliament?

2019-08-28 17:28:17 UTC  

Good

2019-08-28 17:29:57 UTC  

Yes, that's an extreme tangent of the cycle, but a small price to pay - violence against others as a way to curtail the flow of thought is sinful I'd say, but I can't say I know how to approach it beyond "yeah don't physically threaten or do harm with the intent of stifling the free flow of ideas"

2019-08-28 17:30:29 UTC  

that'd be a democratic law rather than a cultural norm or tradition

2019-08-28 17:30:45 UTC  

a democratic law that arises from a cultural norm

2019-08-28 17:31:08 UTC  

Which is why I am pro life, I don't think abortion should be legal since it stifles the free will and ideas of the unborn person.

2019-08-28 17:31:18 UTC  

It doesn't have to arise from a cultural norm

2019-08-28 17:31:22 UTC  

just a product of debate

2019-08-28 17:31:29 UTC  

what are the benefits of violence

2019-08-28 17:31:36 UTC  

what are the demerits of violence

2019-08-28 17:31:42 UTC  

what are the reasons to protect it

2019-08-28 17:31:43 UTC  

okay im blocking this fgt

2019-08-28 17:31:46 UTC  

and what are the reason not to

2019-08-28 17:32:17 UTC  

i don't see how something arising from debate precludes it from being a cultural norm

2019-08-28 17:32:42 UTC  

I don't think it is necesary to be a cultural norm, and believe that a cultural norm negatively influences the free form of ideas

2019-08-28 17:33:24 UTC  

i mean, it could not be a cultural norm in the sense it could be imposed from above onto a populace who doesn't hold it to be a cultural norm

2019-08-28 17:33:37 UTC  

but that would certainly seem to be at odds with the idea of this being "democratic" law