Message from @NinjaQuick

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2019-08-28 17:16:30 UTC  

holding on to the past, onto tradition -- that's what the weak with no merit or value do, the slaves to history

2019-08-28 17:16:40 UTC  

people like nazimantrash

2019-08-28 17:17:20 UTC  

it's what people who recognize that hundreds or even thousands years of accumulated wisdom might have some value do

2019-08-28 17:17:34 UTC  

'wisdom' lol

2019-08-28 17:17:47 UTC  

what's funny

2019-08-28 17:17:58 UTC  

the wisdom of the past is often ehhh

2019-08-28 17:18:01 UTC  

well

2019-08-28 17:18:07 UTC  

"lets rub lemons on our foreheads to cure headaches", "lets rape virgins to cure diseases", "lets wipe from behind when we shit"

2019-08-28 17:18:08 UTC  

you know witch trials right?

2019-08-28 17:18:16 UTC  

Traditions, yo, totally the way we do stuff

2019-08-28 17:18:19 UTC  

😂

2019-08-28 17:18:41 UTC  

i don't see how witch trials are representative of tradition as a whole

2019-08-28 17:19:19 UTC  

how widespread were they anyhow

2019-08-28 17:19:26 UTC  

the reason we as humans have progressed as far as to drop someone on the moon, and take pictures of pluto is that we build on wisdom, not accept it at face value and never evolve it

2019-08-28 17:19:38 UTC  

Take beer industry as an example

2019-08-28 17:20:01 UTC  

with extremely few exceptions, beers that have not had significant recipe changes in the last hundred years taste like shit today

2019-08-28 17:20:18 UTC  

Because ideas, processes and concepts have evolved and built on each other

2019-08-28 17:20:30 UTC  

building on wisdom is a very different concept from discarding it

2019-08-28 17:20:36 UTC  

tradition as a static meme, or idea passed down ,is rubbish

2019-08-28 17:20:59 UTC  

and in any case you're also providing examples of things that have very concrete scientific answers involved

2019-08-28 17:21:04 UTC  

you should be replacing it with a better one, not carrying it forward

2019-08-28 17:21:22 UTC  

everything has concrete scientific/statistical answers

2019-08-28 17:21:33 UTC  

not really

2019-08-28 17:21:36 UTC  

yeah really

2019-08-28 17:22:03 UTC  

the long term affect of all sorts of cultural norms do not

2019-08-28 17:22:11 UTC  

both the acceptance and rejection of them

2019-08-28 17:22:13 UTC  

culture is cancer

2019-08-28 17:22:24 UTC  

what does that even mean

2019-08-28 17:22:40 UTC  

and should be discarded withour remorse

2019-08-28 17:22:59 UTC  

I mean the individual should not have to adhere to expectations, norms, traditions, anything.

2019-08-28 17:23:21 UTC  

the protection of culture is a religion that causes conflict between groups

2019-08-28 17:23:44 UTC  

that's just part and parcel of living in a society my guy

2019-08-28 17:23:57 UTC  

I don't adhere to culture and do just fine

2019-08-28 17:24:07 UTC  

respecting others doesn't mean I must assimilate a culture

2019-08-28 17:24:17 UTC  

so you're saying you don't respect any expectations or norms

2019-08-28 17:24:30 UTC  

I respect but to not expect.

2019-08-28 17:24:53 UTC  

?

2019-08-28 17:25:27 UTC  

expectations and norms are constructs that restrict the free-flow of ideas and growth of individuals, collectives and society as a whole

2019-08-28 17:26:35 UTC  

Is this debates or general?

2019-08-28 17:26:39 UTC  

the flow of ideas only exists because of expectations and norms

2019-08-28 17:26:46 UTC  

no