Islamic rape gangs in the UK is the ultimate black pill I can't stand even thinking about it

So so so very fucked up

There are elements of socialism, the economy isn't fully socialist though, similar to the states, which has elements of socialism, within that safe bubble where it can't/should never escape.

10,000+ rape victims (that we know of) in the North ALONE

They're getting there, slowly but surely, @S K E L L Y Ivanthenotsoterrible.

People talk about how they have a mental disability but does it really matter at the end of the day

All of Europe is very leftist the UK included they are totally under the socialist thumb Overton window at least

If the UK goes socialist, they're fucked. You will never see another white face in the UK again

> Boris Johnson > right wing

Even here in der Schweiz, we have strong elements of socialism, no homeless people unless by extreme choice.

then it will become an Islamic state, where what few white women are left will be reduced to being prostitutes of whichever warlord can keep them

That's already going to be the case, Violet.

but also, stronger capitalism.

was funny watching BoJo shout "free markets" at the commy shadow chancellor

Imao

The parliament is a play day for most people

then when those whores die, the last of the English blood will die with them

"look Mr Speaker! Look how he recoils at the word capitalism... like a transylvanian in the sunlight!"

Something is deeply wrong with the Overton window if a major party is allowed to have self proclaimed socialists as leading members esp in the economics department

once the greatest empire to ever lived, dead, because it allowed itself to suffer a rape-genocide because they don't want to be mean to brown people

UK has been dead longer then that

In the meantime, be weary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

Yeah the police doesn’t mention it

It is possible to keep elements of socialism in a primarily capitalistic society. But you need to be careful it remains in check, give it an inch- then it's a landslide to collapse, especially if it begins to undermine your capitalistic economy.

And they haven't been raped out of existence they are just cucks

Greece comes to mind

>haven't been
It's literally happening right now

@Redxl This is true as Europe seems *relatively stable* despite having been doing this for a while

The future might prove that idea wrong though

@Samaritan It's all about that balance and finding the threshold

I'm far less concerned with actual left wing economic policy (think scandiv) then ideological hegemony and their control over the Overton window which is what I think is causing all the problems and what leads to the collapse

But suffice to say, you CAN have an entire population housed, fed and mostly in good health.

hhaha... theres no clip but I found it in this video timecoded... https://youtu.be/fXqewNoFRVg?t=4785

and still have a thriving economy with a high GDP

You can and everything works in balance

The states could stand to learn a lot more lessons before even arguing for healthcare for all, including illegals, that's just getting retarded now.

I'm viscerally disgusted that the American left wants to turn America into Europe

They are first world nations just fucking move there

Keeping people in desperate poverty so they'll join your war machine is shady as fuck, imo.

Can't one nation in the globe have guns ffs

My bud joined the navy to get his fucking teeth fixed lol

I guess he won out by finding his Pilipino wife, eh..win?

I don't think anyone disagrees that the US medical system has problems

I'm pro socialised healthcare but I'm convinced it can't be run by leftists which is as autistic a position as it sounds

right

I've heard no arguments from the left to convince me they should be in charge of running a socialized healthcare system.

Who naturally wants to and naturally falls into place of being in charge of something like that

Same thing happens with Unions

The socialized healthcare here is run by right-wing, and it works pretty fucking good.

Socialised healthcare is the best way forwards, the problem is leaving it with a left wing govt or a right wing govt

Both would do it wrong

It wouldn't be a problem if the predominant strain of leftism wasn't a negative expression of the same psychological drive

Yeah your right, a right wing gov wouldn't maintain it right either

The left would throw money at it with no regard and offer it to everyone, the right would offer it begrudgingly and with the mind of privatisation and the "free market" (An American libertarian view as well and why me and them argue frequently)

Need big brain centrists The left would over bloat it to be as expansive as possible

If you got Brit Liberts deciding it might work, if you get American ones it will fail- because they believe freemarket deciding is more important than civil rights 🤔

We force our insurance companies to compete brutally by mandating health insurance.

Your mum smells bad!

Mandatory health insurance needs to go as well tbh

That is definitely predatory in nature

not with proper oversight

Idk from the sounds Obamacare/ACA pretty much failed

there are few cases of abuse

because American insurance companies are too intrenched

IT gave a chunk of people an additional bill and the ones at the bottom who could not afford it still could not afford it so it didn't really work and it wasn't even a step in the right direction

Yep because it was mandatory and you had to be covered for all kinds of weird shit you don't fucking need

You guys take the cock of lobbyist up your ass daily.

Stop that shit, and it should get better

What America needs to do is take a few hospitals, nationalise them, and see if it is viable, and that would also build an evidence for them to have an NHS of sorts, maybe not at federal level bt definitely at state level

mandatory/single payer can work, but US healthcare is all kinds of fucked, which switching to mandatory/single payer would probably not fix anyway

Build new ones don't nationalise a pre-existing one, buy them out or buy vacant ones

Its not just the healthcare that is fucked and exploitative and the insurance companies, its also pharma

not to mention that US healthcare _is_ better at innovation

Again, another lobbyist issue.

US pharma is the biggest in the world and most countries do deal with them, but they too are predatory and would rather people die if they cant pay then make healthcare and medicine affordable

Because they are rich from extortion imao

Frankly America is fucked

And will never be fixed

The American system has been getting worse since civil war

That's when the federalisation started and WW2 really sped it up

Pharma, insurance, politics, all in bed together and you're the one's that will do the dying based on their agenda, which is really just another way of saying greed.

really sad

EU is fucked likewise, just in other ways

Its a complicated enough issue you can't just change one thing you'd need comprehensive change

careful not to fall for the utopia falacy

And I wouldn't trust either party esp the dems to do that

Of course, but we know how to lay down some basics.

bring in more centrists then

ah I found the transylvanian in sunlight bit.. I thought they might have cut it out or something... https://youtu.be/fXqewNoFRVg?t=3939

Centrists of America are perhaps the only hope to fix healthcare

I'm sure we might be able to write something real smart up but the politions will corrupt it at every turn of implementation

We really aren't in an age of common sense and responsibility

You got that right

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Polarisation is a part of why

Makes people act before thinking

what happened to Jack... he gone now?

mfw had salt in my corn flakes instead of sugar yesterday <:BIGBRAIN:501101491428392991>

Jack is livid, he will never leave

Eh, the polarization isn't worse than in in the early 20th century