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I wish I could get a DNA test but the terms of service for those DNA testing companies say that by doing that I'd be giving them ownership of my DNA and I don't want to give up ownership of my DNA.
I wish I could get a DNA test but the terms of service for all those DNA testing companies say that by doing that I'd be giving them ownership of my DNA and I don't want to give up ownership of my DNA, that's creepy.
It is actually. How can we get equality if we don't let people to express their opinion regarding some issues?
equality isnt good idk why youd strive for it
I am not striving for absolute equality, however, Capitalism has turned people weak because of automation.
i dont even disagree im just not sure how youd conclude that equality is a good thing from that
We produce more than we need, which lead Marx to a point of "redistributing the wealth"
@Blueroad You should read Marx's work regarding Capitalism and Das Kapital
i know ltv lol
i dont see how ltv makes any case for equality
its just an account for phenomenon in capitalism
The thing is that the meme "absolute equality" came from a Marx's vision of a society where wealth is distributed amongst population. He actually thought of this as both good and bad idea, since people, even when they would get the goods, would become more weak than they are right now.
However, Capitalism would inevitably lead to that, since now more and more people are working "bullshit" jobs.
i never said anything about absolute equality im just trying to understand why equality is desirable
communist scum!
Equality matters at this very point because the Bourgeoisie (the rich class who doesn't work shit) is earning more than most workers. Bourgeoisie isn't necessarily "all rich people" since proletarian can be rich and poor. If communism is based on human nature as many marxist put it, why do we need a government to tell us what to do?
Semper Fi
you just said equality is good because society is unequal
There is healthy and unhealthy inequality though
thats not answering the question
It does, let me explain.
the question was why is equality desirable
Because Bourgeois is exploiting you, and they do not work for their earned money. They just own you, like a slave, except they can fire you and leave you with no job.
The only inequality that must exists is within the workers ability and need.
yeah thats just begging the question, dude
If the worker is fired it may very well be due to the competence of the worker not being fitting to the job
your saying equality is good because its good, you use a negative example(inequality)but thats really what it says
But I never said that absolute equality is good, I an saying here that unjustified inequality must be abolished, since Capitalism is very toxic and adaptable. Here, let me give you a question
Why do you think music today is bad?
i never mentioned absolute equality
i think music today is good
Its not, when something is mass produced, it is inevitable to lose quality. Just like with money.
thats your opinion
Its not really, it does hold a truth, unless you are degenerate who listens to trap everyday.
Do tell me why people think classical music is better than most modern shit?
Its simple, that music was created under no economic influence.
Capitalism creates Alienation from their Labour, the other workers etc
i dont care what other people think. i think things are only valuable in light of some subjectively held criteria so this means nothing to me
im just waiting for a reason to think equality is good
Freedom gives you alot of equal opportunities, and again, you imply that I want absolute equality, and your only argument is "lol no mentioning of that shit"
try to read between the lines
yeah, youre injecting absolute equality into my questioning when its not relevant at all
Equality is good because without it thereโs nothing preventing you from getting the same fate that you supposedly donโt care other people getting
yeah thats fine
Unless youre okay with being brutally murdered
In which case youโre mental
Even libertarian agrees with me.
How ironic.
Oh dear.. a Nazi!
you could derive his point from one sentence;
"There is healthy and unhealthy inequality though"
and for the sake of it"But I never said that absolute equality is good,"
Donโt tread on me sir..
i think everybody should have to struggle and fight for a right to their life
@ACentralScrutinizer only if you don't give workers weapons to defend themselves from Bourgeoisie
@NSG1488 Have you read stuff from other thoughts?
You should know this fellow is full of shit the second he said โ I donโt care what other people think about me everything subjective blah blahโ
Reeks of teen
huh didn't seen that
@ACentralScrutinizer well he is most likely a teen, no doubt about it.
But seriously, if we want workers to rule their own fate, shouldn't we give them weapons?
im 28
LOL
Lmao, 28.
Yikeys.
i mean, your reason for equality being good is incoherent so im not shocked that this is what youd focus on
The thing is I want a society for everyone to have "equal chance of income" but not the outcome
Well your argument is invalid because youโre a stupid poopoohead. Need we any more clarification?
@NSG1488 is that what Marx preached?
so equality is good because you want it?
thats a serious question, not a gotcha
Oh gee. I just realized what kind of equality weโre talking about
@Deleted User Most of the """communists""", and i mean teenage ones in college, want absolute equality since they are lazy, which Marx predicted to happen because of Automation.
Are we talking about financial redistribution?
i mean any kind of equality
So you donโt believe in racial equality?
Financial redistribution should only happen once when Bourgeoisie is destroyed. After that, everyone is for himself.
@NSG1488 you seem reasonable, *now read national socialist material ๐*
@Deleted User Already read it, quite actually good, but the thing is that I want Communism to backfire on it's original (((owner)))
That sounds very chaotic and impractical..
They shall feel the taste of their own medicine.
you sound like an Anarcho-Communist who also tries to smash in some natural principles
fucking epic lad tbh ngl
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Anprimcomnazi
why would i want to artificially lift/lower unequals to my status
Not really an anarchist, since I believe that a state should be governed by proletarians, but in order to this to work, we need two ammendements from US constitution
The Second amendment is going to be renamed into "Means of Protection"
@Blueroad when specifically talking about races, what mAkes a race lesser
Every worker should own a gun if a government ever becomes a part of Bourgeoisie.
fucking
GAMER
Thatโs so utopian and unrealistic
i dont care or know anything about race
its not germane
But Libertatians advocate for guns and free speech, hypocrite @ACentralScrutinizer
It would be easy as fuck for someone to shoot up his comrades, take their guns and become a strongman and zip, there goes your communist utopia
I am for guns and free speech yes
@Blueroad if you donโt care or know anything that substantiates the beliefs you hold then you live up to your Nick
Then why don't you agree on a fact proletarian class needs guns?
what does race have to do with what i asked
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