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2019-05-30 16:48:46 UTC

I wish I could get a DNA test but the terms of service for those DNA testing companies say that by doing that I'd be giving them ownership of my DNA and I don't want to give up ownership of my DNA.

2019-05-30 16:48:56 UTC

I wish I could get a DNA test but the terms of service for all those DNA testing companies say that by doing that I'd be giving them ownership of my DNA and I don't want to give up ownership of my DNA, that's creepy.

2019-05-30 16:49:54 UTC

It is actually. How can we get equality if we don't let people to express their opinion regarding some issues?

2019-05-30 16:50:23 UTC

equality isnt good idk why youd strive for it

2019-05-30 16:51:17 UTC

I am not striving for absolute equality, however, Capitalism has turned people weak because of automation.

2019-05-30 16:51:46 UTC

i dont even disagree im just not sure how youd conclude that equality is a good thing from that

2019-05-30 16:51:47 UTC

We produce more than we need, which lead Marx to a point of "redistributing the wealth"

2019-05-30 16:52:21 UTC

@Blueroad You should read Marx's work regarding Capitalism and Das Kapital

2019-05-30 16:52:38 UTC

i know ltv lol

2019-05-30 16:52:58 UTC

i dont see how ltv makes any case for equality

2019-05-30 16:53:20 UTC

its just an account for phenomenon in capitalism

2019-05-30 16:55:35 UTC

The thing is that the meme "absolute equality" came from a Marx's vision of a society where wealth is distributed amongst population. He actually thought of this as both good and bad idea, since people, even when they would get the goods, would become more weak than they are right now.

2019-05-30 16:56:32 UTC

However, Capitalism would inevitably lead to that, since now more and more people are working "bullshit" jobs.

2019-05-30 16:56:33 UTC

i never said anything about absolute equality im just trying to understand why equality is desirable

2019-05-30 16:58:44 UTC

communist scum!

2019-05-30 16:58:44 UTC

Equality matters at this very point because the Bourgeoisie (the rich class who doesn't work shit) is earning more than most workers. Bourgeoisie isn't necessarily "all rich people" since proletarian can be rich and poor. If communism is based on human nature as many marxist put it, why do we need a government to tell us what to do?

2019-05-30 16:58:45 UTC

Semper Fi

2019-05-30 16:59:20 UTC

you just said equality is good because society is unequal

2019-05-30 16:59:45 UTC

There is healthy and unhealthy inequality though

2019-05-30 17:00:19 UTC

thats not answering the question

2019-05-30 17:00:33 UTC

It does, let me explain.

2019-05-30 17:00:33 UTC

the question was why is equality desirable

2019-05-30 17:01:17 UTC

Because Bourgeois is exploiting you, and they do not work for their earned money. They just own you, like a slave, except they can fire you and leave you with no job.

2019-05-30 17:01:38 UTC

The only inequality that must exists is within the workers ability and need.

2019-05-30 17:02:12 UTC

yeah thats just begging the question, dude

2019-05-30 17:02:13 UTC

If the worker is fired it may very well be due to the competence of the worker not being fitting to the job

2019-05-30 17:02:49 UTC

your saying equality is good because its good, you use a negative example(inequality)but thats really what it says

2019-05-30 17:04:01 UTC

But I never said that absolute equality is good, I an saying here that unjustified inequality must be abolished, since Capitalism is very toxic and adaptable. Here, let me give you a question

2019-05-30 17:04:12 UTC

Why do you think music today is bad?

2019-05-30 17:04:15 UTC

i never mentioned absolute equality

2019-05-30 17:04:26 UTC

i think music today is good

2019-05-30 17:04:54 UTC

Its not, when something is mass produced, it is inevitable to lose quality. Just like with money.

2019-05-30 17:05:07 UTC

thats your opinion

2019-05-30 17:05:48 UTC

Its not really, it does hold a truth, unless you are degenerate who listens to trap everyday.

2019-05-30 17:06:02 UTC

Do tell me why people think classical music is better than most modern shit?

2019-05-30 17:06:25 UTC

Its simple, that music was created under no economic influence.

2019-05-30 17:07:01 UTC

Capitalism creates Alienation from their Labour, the other workers etc

2019-05-30 17:07:31 UTC

i dont care what other people think. i think things are only valuable in light of some subjectively held criteria so this means nothing to me

2019-05-30 17:07:51 UTC

im just waiting for a reason to think equality is good

2019-05-30 17:08:45 UTC

Freedom gives you alot of equal opportunities, and again, you imply that I want absolute equality, and your only argument is "lol no mentioning of that shit"

2019-05-30 17:09:10 UTC

try to read between the lines

2019-05-30 17:09:11 UTC

yeah, youre injecting absolute equality into my questioning when its not relevant at all

2019-05-30 17:09:12 UTC

Equality is good because without it thereโ€™s nothing preventing you from getting the same fate that you supposedly donโ€™t care other people getting

2019-05-30 17:09:19 UTC

yeah thats fine

2019-05-30 17:09:23 UTC

Unless youre okay with being brutally murdered

2019-05-30 17:09:28 UTC

In which case youโ€™re mental

2019-05-30 17:09:39 UTC

Even libertarian agrees with me.

2019-05-30 17:09:43 UTC

How ironic.

2019-05-30 17:10:06 UTC

Oh dear.. a Nazi!

2019-05-30 17:10:08 UTC

you could derive his point from one sentence;
"There is healthy and unhealthy inequality though"
and for the sake of it"But I never said that absolute equality is good,"

2019-05-30 17:10:12 UTC
2019-05-30 17:10:13 UTC

Donโ€™t tread on me sir..

2019-05-30 17:10:33 UTC

i think everybody should have to struggle and fight for a right to their life

2019-05-30 17:11:04 UTC

@ACentralScrutinizer only if you don't give workers weapons to defend themselves from Bourgeoisie

2019-05-30 17:11:08 UTC

@NSG1488 Have you read stuff from other thoughts?

2019-05-30 17:12:03 UTC

You should know this fellow is full of shit the second he said โ€œ I donโ€™t care what other people think about me everything subjective blah blahโ€

2019-05-30 17:12:11 UTC

Reeks of teen

2019-05-30 17:12:27 UTC

huh didn't seen that

2019-05-30 17:12:36 UTC

@ACentralScrutinizer well he is most likely a teen, no doubt about it.

2019-05-30 17:13:15 UTC

But seriously, if we want workers to rule their own fate, shouldn't we give them weapons?

2019-05-30 17:13:21 UTC

im 28

2019-05-30 17:13:26 UTC

LOL

2019-05-30 17:13:39 UTC

Lmao, 28.

2019-05-30 17:14:13 UTC

Yikeys.

2019-05-30 17:14:25 UTC

i mean, your reason for equality being good is incoherent so im not shocked that this is what youd focus on

2019-05-30 17:15:06 UTC

The thing is I want a society for everyone to have "equal chance of income" but not the outcome

2019-05-30 17:15:12 UTC

Well your argument is invalid because youโ€™re a stupid poopoohead. Need we any more clarification?

2019-05-30 17:15:22 UTC

@NSG1488 is that what Marx preached?

2019-05-30 17:15:48 UTC

so equality is good because you want it?

2019-05-30 17:16:11 UTC

thats a serious question, not a gotcha

2019-05-30 17:16:14 UTC

Oh gee. I just realized what kind of equality weโ€™re talking about

2019-05-30 17:16:28 UTC

@Deleted User Most of the """communists""", and i mean teenage ones in college, want absolute equality since they are lazy, which Marx predicted to happen because of Automation.

2019-05-30 17:16:29 UTC

Are we talking about financial redistribution?

2019-05-30 17:16:31 UTC

i mean any kind of equality

2019-05-30 17:16:45 UTC

So you donโ€™t believe in racial equality?

2019-05-30 17:17:08 UTC

Financial redistribution should only happen once when Bourgeoisie is destroyed. After that, everyone is for himself.

2019-05-30 17:17:21 UTC

@NSG1488 you seem reasonable, *now read national socialist material ๐Ÿ˜Ž*

2019-05-30 17:18:00 UTC

@Deleted User Already read it, quite actually good, but the thing is that I want Communism to backfire on it's original (((owner)))

2019-05-30 17:18:05 UTC

That sounds very chaotic and impractical..

2019-05-30 17:18:16 UTC

They shall feel the taste of their own medicine.

2019-05-30 17:18:41 UTC

you sound like an Anarcho-Communist who also tries to smash in some natural principles

2019-05-30 17:18:46 UTC

fucking epic lad tbh ngl

2019-05-30 17:19:01 UTC

Anprimcomnazi

2019-05-30 17:19:08 UTC

Anprimcomnazi

2019-05-30 17:19:32 UTC

why would i want to artificially lift/lower unequals to my status

2019-05-30 17:19:34 UTC

Not really an anarchist, since I believe that a state should be governed by proletarians, but in order to this to work, we need two ammendements from US constitution

2019-05-30 17:20:04 UTC

The Second amendment is going to be renamed into "Means of Protection"

2019-05-30 17:20:16 UTC

@Blueroad when specifically talking about races, what mAkes a race lesser

2019-05-30 17:20:37 UTC

Every worker should own a gun if a government ever becomes a part of Bourgeoisie.

2019-05-30 17:21:04 UTC

fucking

2019-05-30 17:21:05 UTC

GAMER

2019-05-30 17:21:18 UTC

Thatโ€™s so utopian and unrealistic

2019-05-30 17:21:27 UTC

i dont care or know anything about race

2019-05-30 17:21:41 UTC

its not germane

2019-05-30 17:21:46 UTC

But Libertatians advocate for guns and free speech, hypocrite @ACentralScrutinizer

2019-05-30 17:22:03 UTC

It would be easy as fuck for someone to shoot up his comrades, take their guns and become a strongman and zip, there goes your communist utopia

2019-05-30 17:22:11 UTC

I am for guns and free speech yes

2019-05-30 17:22:47 UTC

@Blueroad if you donโ€™t care or know anything that substantiates the beliefs you hold then you live up to your Nick

2019-05-30 17:22:54 UTC

Then why don't you agree on a fact proletarian class needs guns?

2019-05-30 17:23:02 UTC

what does race have to do with what i asked

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