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How dare you?

2019-06-24 03:04:47 UTC

Look how much that scorpion looks like the bones of our body.

You're using the verse incorrectly

2019-06-24 03:05:17 UTC

Isaiah 47:12-14

2019-06-24 03:05:19 UTC

**Isaiah 47:12-14 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<12> Stand now with thine enchantments, and with the multitude of thy sorceries, wherein thou hast laboured from thy youth; if so be thou shalt be able to profit, if so be thou mayest prevail. <13> Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee. <14> Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it. ```

2019-06-24 03:05:51 UTC

Your point is valid. But do we stop there or investigate further?

I don't care about literalism

The Bible is not literal

2019-06-24 03:06:25 UTC

gnosticism will end up putting you on the broad path destined for destruction.

2019-06-24 03:06:46 UTC

Matthew 7:13-14

2019-06-24 03:06:48 UTC

**Matthew 7:13-14 - King James Version (KJV)**

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<13> Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: <14> Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. ```

This isn't Gnosticism. Stop trying that shit. You always do this and it's pissing me off

2019-06-24 03:06:56 UTC

I agree it is not literal. It is riddles or rhymes and such. God told moses when I speak to a prophet in prophecy, dreams or visions I speak in rhymes.

2019-06-24 03:07:00 UTC

hinduism is not biblical.

You literally always do this

Astrology is not Hindu

Stop pulling shit from your ass

2019-06-24 03:07:35 UTC

the bible says the astrologers get burned in the fire.

I don't believe you

The wise men used Astrology

2019-06-24 03:07:57 UTC

it'

2019-06-24 03:08:00 UTC

is right there.

I guess they are burning, eh?

2019-06-24 03:08:10 UTC

God said he created the stars for our use to know things. Sure we can take that too far.

2019-06-24 03:08:22 UTC

seeing a sign and astrology are not the same thing.

2019-06-24 03:08:55 UTC

True but to ignore the pattern in heaven completely one has to wonder are you ignoring God.

You speak against some scripture to denounce the trinity, and then dare to take scripture literally when used against Astrology? You're literally seeing what you want. You are literally extrapolating what you want.

The Bible would not use Astrology and then damn the people for also using it. God is not a hypocrite.

2019-06-24 03:09:58 UTC

Totally agree.

2019-06-24 03:09:58 UTC

or i;m literally pointing out astrologers are the ones with the SORCERORS that get burned to stubble.

Astrologers are not sorcerers

I find no magic in Astrology

2019-06-24 03:10:30 UTC

then let the asrtrologers save you from the fire.

Cut the bullshit

2019-06-24 03:10:46 UTC

Yes but they take it too far. Make claims like they can know about our life based on the stars when we were born and such.

2019-06-24 03:11:26 UTC

Would you not agree astrologers take it too far?

2019-06-24 03:11:34 UTC

the stars are angels, they follow a set path, and astrologers obsess over the angels doing their jobs, angels don't like to be worshipped.

God saves me from a lower plane of existence with more suffering.

2019-06-24 03:12:01 UTC

No they want God to be worshiped.

Not Astrology

2019-06-24 03:12:40 UTC

"lower plane of existence" the bible says the dead are raised, ON EARTH, Jesus reigns ON EARTH

2019-06-24 03:13:07 UTC

the bible isn't about afterlife or chakra, it's about LIFE

Oh, this crap, again. We are not going to sit in our grave until some magical messiah comes to give you some new life.

2019-06-24 03:13:50 UTC

that's what the bible says.

You're reading it wrong

2019-06-24 03:14:04 UTC

the dead await resurrection, God is not the God of the dead, but of the LIVING

I have never heard of a Christian saying this. You're literally the very first one I have ever met to say we sit in a grave until Jesus comes.

2019-06-24 03:15:00 UTC

Matthew 22:31-33

Sorry, you can believe that all you want.

2019-06-24 03:15:03 UTC

**Matthew 22:31-33 - King James Version (KJV)**

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<31> But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, <32> I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. <33> And when the multitude heard this, they were astonished at his doctrine. ```

2019-06-24 03:15:39 UTC

what i say is purely true.

You can believe it all you want. Go right ahead. I'll keep working on my spirituality and my relationship with God.

I know he has my back.

2019-06-24 03:15:51 UTC

demons are spirits too.

2019-06-24 03:16:12 UTC

Any Chance we can calm this down a bit lads?

I said spirituality, not spirit.

2019-06-24 03:16:56 UTC

basically the only difference between your beliefs is that according to bibleman, the righteous have to wait for the second coming to be resurrected. according to nomad, they are resurrected immediately and go to heaven. in either case, the righteous are resurrected eventually, only difference is when

2019-06-24 03:17:02 UTC

you won't get that relationship with astrology and chakra.

2019-06-24 03:17:03 UTC

Exodus 3:15

2019-06-24 03:17:04 UTC

**Exodus 3:15 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<15> God also said to Moses, "Thus you shall say to the Israelites, 'The Lord, the God of your ancestors, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you': This is my name forever, and this my title for all generations. ```

2019-06-24 03:17:04 UTC

Spent the last 10 mins reading through all this and all I see are tempers flaring??

2019-06-24 03:17:19 UTC

With the tongue we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in Godโ€™s likeness. 10Out of the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, this should not be! 11Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring?โ€ฆ James 3:9-11

2019-06-24 03:17:19 UTC

**James 3:9-11 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<9> With it we bless the Lord and Father, and with it we curse those who are made in the likeness of God. <10> From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers and sisters, this ought not to be so. <11> Does a spring pour forth from the same opening both fresh and brackish water? ```

2019-06-24 03:17:27 UTC

So God is the god of the dead and the living

2019-06-24 03:17:35 UTC

Since we all agree scripture is our guide point lets follow it

2019-06-24 03:17:40 UTC

that would contradict Matthew 22:31-33

2019-06-24 03:17:40 UTC

**Matthew 22:31-33 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<31> But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, <32> I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. <33> And when the multitude heard this, they were astonished at his doctrine. ```

2019-06-24 03:17:46 UTC

Jesus said that.

I won't get that relationship? Then what did I have now? Satan whispering in my ear? Get real.

I denounce evil and demons

2019-06-24 03:18:12 UTC

Is not that verse what he was referring to?

2019-06-24 03:18:14 UTC

James 3:9-11

2019-06-24 03:18:14 UTC

if you're getting chakras out of it, yes.

2019-06-24 03:18:15 UTC

**James 3:9-11 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust


<9> With it we bless the Lord and Father, and with it we curse those who are made in the likeness of God. <10> From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers and sisters, this ought not to be so. <11> Does a spring pour forth from the same opening both fresh and brackish water? ```

2019-06-24 03:18:24 UTC

Anyone catching this verse yet and what it is saying?

It's in the Bible, you just choose to ignore it.

2019-06-24 03:18:53 UTC

We can't be fighting one another and insulting one another and call ourselves Christians or people of God

2019-06-24 03:19:03 UTC

i'm not the one taking the verses out of context to fit your chakra doctrine.

2019-06-24 03:19:16 UTC

Matthew was preaching to the living, not the dead.

2019-06-24 03:19:21 UTC

If we claim to be something, then we necessarily need to act the part otherwise whats the point?

2019-06-24 03:19:22 UTC

the seven candlesticks are not chakras, it is a menorah.

2019-06-24 03:19:40 UTC

Some back them seemed to rely on the dead and this was not the right thing to do.

The menorah is a man made object

2019-06-24 03:20:05 UTC

seven churches not seven chakras

2019-06-24 03:20:07 UTC

lol

That's not biblical in the slightest

At all

At all

At all

2019-06-24 03:20:31 UTC

you just put a picture of hindu doctrine over a bible verse

2019-06-24 03:20:33 UTC

meditation has brought me nothing but love for others, happiness, and the ability to reject the temptations that the devil uses to damn us. i think your fear of meditation is irrational, bibleman. it is a method of resisting the very temptations that damn our souls

2019-06-24 03:20:43 UTC

hinduism is the mnost polytheist of all religions

2019-06-24 03:21:42 UTC

who says hinduism has a monopoly on meditation?

2019-06-24 03:21:56 UTC

looking at scripture to verfy scripture? nah lets throw in hindu nonsense that fits nowhere int here and make it look legit with pictures

2019-06-24 03:21:58 UTC

deception.

Hinduism has a One Prime Creator above all.

2019-06-24 03:22:14 UTC

@๐Ÿ„The Mad Philosopher๐Ÿ„ @Bibleman What does the bible we all read have to say about insulting one another?Or about causing strife with our words? ....Instead Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

2019-06-24 03:22:17 UTC

This is not just Hindu belief. Many believe in the Chakra and it is impossible to know that those who did back then were not being taught how to get it more correct.

As does most religions

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