The Christian Church fucked itself

not true

<@&516817984782729217> Daily Question <:PraiseGod:484196233020440586>

- Are science and religion compatible?

No.

No

Science is literally atheism.

Yes

No.

It's a yes from me

nO.

Fuck you.

Most of the scientific discoveries were made by Christians

So?

Galelio for example

The Christian religion says that Earth is fucking flat.

Science is a tool to explore and understand God's infinite creation

Not a barrier to religion

@Koninos wrong

Correct.

Don't make me bring my bible.

The early Christian Church accepted Earth was round ages ago

Tye debate was wether or not Earth was the center of the solar system

Though the authentic texts say it's flat.

No

Yes.

The people believed it is flat, and thus the old texts say it's flat.

inb4 4 Corners verse, that's been refuted by every major Christian body

No matter what the Christian believes. Christianity is a very old religion. Back in the ages Christianity was made, people believed the Earth is flat. And so did the first Christians.

No Christian said that the Earth is round, back then.

It's understandable, and I'm not critisizing the Christians for this, but let's be honest here.

Also the majority of scientists are atheists.

There are many things that science have proved wrong, mentioned in the Christian bible.

Adam and Eva for example.

Science may not have proved it entirely, but the Darwin Theory is more acceptable - from the majority of the people, at least.

Furthermore, the reason the human race did not develop at *all*, in the Middle Ages, was because of the religions. They all thought that everything was made by god - thus, why would they mind to explore the world?

However, when the Renaissance arrived, and the enlighters, who were either Deists or atheists, lighted up our world.

Without them, we'd be stuck in the "God made everything" theory that Christianity presented, and would never have developed since then.

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Science is a tool to explore and understand God's infinite creation
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This is terribly wrong in my opinion, hence science has proved wrong many things that are mentioned in the Christian bible.

Science can explain a lot, but not everything.

Thus, Science is not capable of answering the "Is there a God?" question.

Though Christianity is rapidly losing its population, just because of science.

So does every other religion.

From Islam to Buddhism.

From Hinduism to other traditional religions.

So Science is not compatible with Religions.

No.

Except from Deism - Deism says that there *is* a god, who created our universe, though he doesn't interact with us, nor has he created us; the universe itself, developed, and create us.

Deism is compatible with Science.

Though the rest of the religions are not, in my opinion.

Science and religion are compatible

God is truth

God is absolute truth

Okay, this is epic

Science seeks to find that truth although *modern scientists* want to ignore the truth which is God

Which is why homosex are okay and literally gender is a social construct

Ebic:DDDD

I feel as if I just restated someone’s point

You did, but wrongly.

Science's purpose is to discover how did the universe begin.

???

Though not only modern, but some ancient scientists questioned and question the existance of god.

Christianity is compatible with religion

oof

Christianity is a religipn.

i meant christianity is compatible with science

Christianity, yes.

Partially.

Islam is not

Other religions aren't.

Exactly.

Judaism is compatible

Cuz judaism is literally just the christian old testament

Thus, religions as a whole, aren't necessarily compatible with science.

Science and religion is compatible

@el pebble Not with every religion

^

Its incompatible with islam

^

Terribly true.

Incompatible with Hinduism and jainism

incompatible with shintoism

Satanism.

Other traditional religions too.

cuz they believe that the universe was made by a god jizzing onto space

^

and that jizz made space pregnant

so yh

Despite last thursdayism there is still something called the omphalos hypothesis that tries to integrate science with creationism

last thursdayism is hte only religion that is 100% compatible with science

But the majority of theological components can exist with science because they don't address each other

ok

Now

Name a part of Christianity that is against science

@el pebble @Koninos

and i will prove how it is compatible

You misunderstand

I support compatibility

The existence of God (Not compatible with *modern* scientific beliefs.).

Not true

True.

If you believe the christian god is incompatible with modern science

The vast majority of the modern scientists believe that the existence of god isn't true.

then you are not looking at the christian god

Paranormal powers too.

Also the majority of modern scientists whom this field of science is their specific field of study

Are agnostic

Eg they arent sure

But

The christian god lives outside space time and matter

All 3 are specific things

You cant have space

Without time or matter

Because when would you put it

and what would you put in it

You cant have time alone

God is inversely proven through philosophy due to empiricism

for obvious reasons

The christian god is omnipotent and omniscient

The vast majority of scientists aren't steadfast on God because he is not a scientific being

Science is of him

yes

Science is incompatible with religion’s distinctive method of knowing. Science is also incompatible with many of religion’s distinctive conclusions. Leaving goings-on in some supernatural realm aside, many religions claim to have knowledge of entities and events showing up in our world which ought to occasionally be experimentally confirmable by scientific method. Consider religious claims about divine creation of humans, miracles, faith healing, angelic visitations, demonic forces, etc. When scientifically investigated, science concludes that these claims lack merit, about as impressive as horoscopes, Big Foot, and ESP. Sophisticated theology quickly covers for religion by ad-hoc hypothesizing how science must be blind to these matters (hence we get transubstantiation, ectoplasm, God’s gene-tweaking, etc.) Very liberal religion wisely refrains from claims about matters that ought to be scientifically detectable and confirmable (that’s the privilege of broad accommodation). But when a religion continues to make anti-scientific claims, do not be surprised when science declares its incompatibility.

Copy pasting didn't work last time you tried it koninos

Who are you again?

hes an elder

thats who

Wow.

anyway

I gtg. Let's continue later.

K

lol

@Flare Nice chat.

Free will not real

Same with you @Koninos

Why would science and religion conflict when the only scientific ideas to be incompatible with religion are simply theories?

ha lol

Why not accept that religion requires the suspension of disbelief? Religious men and women lead better lives than atheists.

Tis true^

yes

not every religion centers around a great god creating the earth and divine things along that nature

Though all the reasonable ones believe in some type of divine creation.

not the pagans for what I know

I’m pretty sure polytheism has nothing to do with divine creation

But in those didn’t the gods or the head god create humans?

@ＩＶ ＬＩ Ｖ Ｓ how do you know

https://twitter.com/PurpleJokerhini/status/1073581352161820674

Muslim demolishing a statue of Jesus in Italy

@edickens It does, ive read enough mythology to confirm that often times polytheism ironically enough defines the world as coming to be from an original creator. Then that craetor created basically the elements that had their own will and were the gods, and these essentially divine beings created man.

Often times polytheism will have a dust, or clay myth. Alternatively it will have a made from body parts of a divine being myth (explaining social classes along the way)

@шпијун we dont keep statues of glorious Prophets and Messengers

especially the Messiah

that will be caliph

in the future

*In Italy*

@Lola Personal experience and observation. Please don't take my word for it, just pay attention to the existential crises that only befall atheists.

@ＩＶ ＬＩ Ｖ Ｓ ah I see

But don't people with a religion have a lot of things they're worrying about too?

they're NOT italians @Muhammad Al-Tajir

they are invaders in a host country

so they're not ur statues to destroy

Sure they do. I just find that religious woes are much easier to deal with than atheistic ones.

Yeah

I think it depends on how big of a deal the atheist/theist makes of it

@шпијун hah early islam destroyed idols upon invasion of mecca!!!

so will happen for italy

now we are italians

and im.swedish

Okay, this is epic

@Muhammad Al-Tajir how are you a. Senior citizen 😠

lmao idk actually

activity probably

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@Religion Daily Question 🔖

- Were the crusades Justified? Explain.

Yes

Next

explain debil

perhaps

Yes, Muslims were being the bad fellas bothering our ancestors

They needed to be shown the power of God and also Jerusalem is ours

#takebackconstantinople

Next

Against the Muslims, yes. Against Pagans and such, no.

Yes, mecca must be destroyed

Yes, the Crusades were justified. Muslims had already taken all of the Iberian peninsula by that point. As well as raiding all the way to Tours, France, which is not terribly far from Paris. They had also already taken and established Sicily as an independent Emirate, as well as Bari (on the Italian peninsula). Likewise, they had also raided Rome and many other places in Italy.

@JustMyAlt mecca or kaa'ba?

kaa'ba and mecca will be rebuilt like it always has

Mecca itself

btw btfo romans and sassanids

mecca will be rebuilt

its a ciry

city

I know

cities will be rebuilt

the Kaa'ba was built by pagans

so we must give it back to those who made it, after we clean the world of Islam

it was originally built by Abraham and his firstborn son Ishmael peace be upon him

you dont want pagans back trust me

they would bury infant girls

and have slaves whom they would treat horrible

1) Muhammad had a young girl as a -sex slave- wife

2) why would Abraham leave his home to go in the middle of fuck nowhere to build an ugly rock?

3) Islam is pretty pagan now that i think of it

4) Muhammad treated his black slaves awfully (Muhammad was a white supremacists)

How is Islam pagan?

Islam has pretty paganist views and traditions

That was a pretty vague answer

(googling the stuff I am thinking, sorry my dude. )

All good

first thing that comes to mind is the idol worship of the black stone

Islam is the most anti-pagan religion in existence

Paganism always revolves around the worship of nature, while Islam completely forbids any depiction of the natural world

may I ask your faith my friend?

culturally christian

Ah, no bias then. I don't fully agree with Paganism = nature worship. For you see, did the Africans tribal faiths worshiped the sand?

You're right, middle eastern paganism was very different from paganism in other parts of the world

and Islam did just co-opt most of the existing pagan concepts and idols now that I look at it

I mean, there was a whole pantheon of animal and astrological and humanist gods that Islam did away with, but they maintaned a lot of the old traditions

Yup! that is what i mean, we can disagree if that makes them pagan, but as long as you see where i am coming from.

Yeah, you're totally right

thanks!

Christianity is a disgusting religion

Emphasis on equality diversity and degeneracy

Destroyed the west technologically in the Middle Ages, removed the Roman Empire.

The crusades are a fucking meme

*uh yea let’s just invade Byzantium and destroy the empire keeping the sand niggers from Europe*

gg

Gay

no u

pretty low brow take on Christianity

I would have to say that religions such as Atheism and Islam lead to degeneracy with Christianity being full of culture and traditions which have founded and grown modern western society.

```religions such as atheism```<:facepalm:459545653509357578>

Implying that atheism is not a religious belief

Atheism, yes

atheism, no

gay confederate communist nazi party

yes

interested?

@Doctor Anon

nyet

i uslishal on: "_**da**_"

FUCK BOSNIA

MUSLIM FUCKERS

@JustMyAlt you just made that shit up

show me where he treated slaves bad

and he didnt rape aisha. you cant decide whether someone gets raped or not

you beta

its like i accuse you of raping your wife because "she seemed a bit down"

aisha was a wife not a slave