Message from @Flare

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2018-12-13 16:38:10 UTC  

But

2018-12-13 16:38:19 UTC  

The christian god lives outside space time and matter

2018-12-13 16:38:24 UTC  

All 3 are specific things

2018-12-13 16:38:46 UTC  

You cant have space

2018-12-13 16:38:49 UTC  

Without time or matter

2018-12-13 16:38:55 UTC  

Because when would you put it

2018-12-13 16:38:58 UTC  

and what would you put in it

2018-12-13 16:39:09 UTC  

You cant have time alone

2018-12-13 16:39:15 UTC  

God is inversely proven through philosophy due to empiricism

2018-12-13 16:39:17 UTC  

for obvious reasons

2018-12-13 16:39:49 UTC  

The christian god is omnipotent and omniscient

2018-12-13 16:39:49 UTC  

The vast majority of scientists aren't steadfast on God because he is not a scientific being

2018-12-13 16:39:53 UTC  

Science is of him

2018-12-13 16:39:57 UTC  

yes

2018-12-13 16:40:14 UTC  

Science is incompatible with religion’s distinctive method of knowing. Science is also incompatible with many of religion’s distinctive conclusions. Leaving goings-on in some supernatural realm aside, many religions claim to have knowledge of entities and events showing up in our world which ought to occasionally be experimentally confirmable by scientific method. Consider religious claims about divine creation of humans, miracles, faith healing, angelic visitations, demonic forces, etc. When scientifically investigated, science concludes that these claims lack merit, about as impressive as horoscopes, Big Foot, and ESP. Sophisticated theology quickly covers for religion by ad-hoc hypothesizing how science must be blind to these matters (hence we get transubstantiation, ectoplasm, God’s gene-tweaking, etc.) Very liberal religion wisely refrains from claims about matters that ought to be scientifically detectable and confirmable (that’s the privilege of broad accommodation). But when a religion continues to make anti-scientific claims, do not be surprised when science declares its incompatibility.

2018-12-13 16:40:28 UTC  

Copy pasting didn't work last time you tried it koninos

2018-12-13 16:40:43 UTC  

Who are you again?

2018-12-13 16:41:00 UTC  

hes an elder

2018-12-13 16:41:02 UTC  

thats who

2018-12-13 16:41:18 UTC  

Wow.

2018-12-13 16:41:54 UTC  

anyway

2018-12-13 16:42:06 UTC  

I gtg. Let's continue later.

2018-12-13 16:42:09 UTC  

K

2018-12-13 16:42:10 UTC  

lol

2018-12-13 16:42:11 UTC  

@Flare Nice chat.

2018-12-13 16:42:13 UTC  

Free will not real

2018-12-13 16:42:17 UTC  

Same with you @Koninos

2018-12-13 16:48:45 UTC  

Why would science and religion conflict when the only scientific ideas to be incompatible with religion are simply theories?

2018-12-13 17:22:18 UTC  

ha lol

2018-12-13 20:36:30 UTC  

Why not accept that religion requires the suspension of disbelief? Religious men and women lead better lives than atheists.

2018-12-13 23:03:44 UTC  

Tis true^

2018-12-14 05:10:27 UTC  

yes

2018-12-14 05:11:12 UTC  

not every religion centers around a great god creating the earth and divine things along that nature

2018-12-14 05:33:54 UTC  

Though all the reasonable ones believe in some type of divine creation.

2018-12-14 06:17:06 UTC  

not the pagans for what I know

2018-12-14 06:17:24 UTC  

I’m pretty sure polytheism has nothing to do with divine creation

2018-12-14 06:29:00 UTC  

But in those didn’t the gods or the head god create humans?

2018-12-14 08:37:01 UTC  

@IV LI V S how do you know

2018-12-14 16:43:00 UTC  

Muslim demolishing a statue of Jesus in Italy

2018-12-14 18:20:27 UTC  

@edickens It does, ive read enough mythology to confirm that often times polytheism ironically enough defines the world as coming to be from an original creator. Then that craetor created basically the elements that had their own will and were the gods, and these essentially divine beings created man.