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2018-09-07 18:07:49 UTC

well she did post a pic and i couldn't reverse search it on google

2018-09-07 18:08:00 UTC

sadly she was banned and it was erased

2018-09-07 18:08:02 UTC

from hopps

2018-09-07 18:12:23 UTC

not on this server

2018-09-07 18:12:27 UTC

in hopps realm

2018-09-07 18:12:50 UTC

What did they ban them for?

2018-09-07 18:13:05 UTC

being a toxic commie and pissing off everyone on the server

2018-09-07 18:13:10 UTC

10 days in a row

2018-09-07 18:16:05 UTC

Real Anarcho-monarchist Gang hours

2018-09-07 18:38:29 UTC

Anarcho-monarchism cannot be a real thing

2018-09-07 18:47:44 UTC

@Swiss Cheese they could easily have pics from random girls

2018-09-07 18:48:01 UTC

yeah but i couldn't reverse search it

2018-09-07 18:48:02 UTC

on google

2018-09-07 18:48:07 UTC

or in facebook or any of those

2018-09-07 18:49:00 UTC

Ugh

2018-09-07 18:49:14 UTC

If you have a private fb account

2018-09-07 18:49:28 UTC

Google wont show your pics

2018-09-07 19:08:17 UTC

nope its pretty public

2018-09-07 19:08:19 UTC

sorry for late response

2018-09-07 19:08:24 UTC

oh wait

2018-09-07 19:08:26 UTC

i am dumb

2018-09-07 19:08:28 UTC

miss read that

2018-09-07 19:40:34 UTC

I have this one friend who believes in food redistribution as a method if preventing starvation.
Would this be achievable on a global scale?

2018-09-07 19:48:36 UTC

No

2018-09-07 19:48:46 UTC

A country needs to be self sustainingg

2018-09-07 19:49:00 UTC

Because more food leads to more babies aka more demand for food

2018-09-07 19:49:34 UTC

If you institute some program of redistribution it can end at any time for many different reasons

2018-09-07 19:50:21 UTC

And then you have chaos and starvation when there is now a food supply crises. Its a really bad idea to mess with a nations food supply

2018-09-07 20:45:34 UTC
2018-09-07 20:47:24 UTC

i dont support antifa but dont you think it ruins the point of the server to ban everyone of an idealogy just because theirs rumors a few of them are ddoxing on discord

2018-09-07 20:54:05 UTC

why did you say this in OTD

2018-09-07 20:54:18 UTC

Antifa == Usually iolent scum

2018-09-07 20:54:24 UTC

we don't want that here

2018-09-07 21:00:00 UTC

@L0GAN wasn't my decision you little cuck

2018-09-07 21:03:23 UTC

@Doctor Anon your the owner

2018-09-07 21:03:37 UTC

you can undo decisions

2018-09-07 21:03:42 UTC

Consuls have autonomy

2018-09-07 21:03:50 UTC

Full autonomy

2018-09-07 21:03:53 UTC

That's the point

2018-09-07 21:04:11 UTC

let us vote on the consuls if we gonan give em power

2018-09-07 21:04:18 UTC

no lol

2018-09-07 21:04:26 UTC

pope back when he was staff was mocked for being libtarded

2018-09-07 21:04:35 UTC

@L0GAN lol, if you get 30 people to agree to an election, I will hold one

2018-09-07 21:04:49 UTC

do a poll in announcements

2018-09-07 21:04:54 UTC

who wants an election

2018-09-07 21:04:57 UTC

Republics dont last

2018-09-07 21:05:02 UTC

that is a fact

2018-09-07 21:05:05 UTC

^

2018-09-07 21:05:10 UTC

democratic republics

2018-09-07 21:05:10 UTC

no government lasts

2018-09-07 21:05:24 UTC

@campodin all republics are democratic

2018-09-07 21:05:38 UTC

republic refers to a representative democracy

2018-09-07 21:05:46 UTC

@L0GAN how about we elect staff and staff elect consul

2018-09-07 21:05:51 UTC

sounds good

2018-09-07 21:05:56 UTC

eh

2018-09-07 21:05:57 UTC

that would be more like parliament tho

2018-09-07 21:05:58 UTC

no, republic is a mixed state by definition

2018-09-07 21:06:20 UTC

a state in which supreme ***power is held by the people and their elected representatives***, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.

2018-09-07 21:06:41 UTC

Rome was better as an Empire

2018-09-07 21:07:50 UTC

Senate became so corrupt

2018-09-07 21:08:11 UTC

like every fucking republic

2018-09-07 21:08:37 UTC

the us is different

2018-09-07 21:08:46 UTC

our politics arent very extreme

2018-09-07 21:08:52 UTC

and depend on centrist voters

2018-09-07 21:10:07 UTC

@L0GAN each side likes to pit other side as extremists

2018-09-07 21:10:14 UTC

Both are very moderate though

2018-09-07 21:10:52 UTC

Republics are clown shows

2018-09-07 21:11:19 UTC

That get nothing done and just bitch over who is right and wrong

2018-09-07 21:12:28 UTC

(but then again its not like they have any interest in their politics other than personal gain)

2018-09-07 21:13:19 UTC

And then leaving it up to people to vote which is a horrible idea

2018-09-07 21:15:31 UTC

I feel like the reason democrats want illegal immigrants is the cheap labor that isnt the governments problem to fix

2018-09-07 21:21:32 UTC

@โ˜ฆDefaultโ„ข#1027

2018-09-07 21:21:35 UTC

Did he leave

2018-09-07 21:21:47 UTC

Ha

2018-09-07 21:22:00 UTC

@L0GAN you are using are modern bastardization of the term republican. Originally it was meant to describe the mixed government.

2018-09-07 21:22:17 UTC

Mixed government (or a mixed constitution) is a form of government that combines elements of democracy (polity), aristocracy and monarchy, making impossible their respective degenerations which are conceived as anarchy, oligarchy and tyranny.[1] The idea was popularized during classical antiquity in order to describe the stability, the innovation and the success of the republic as a form of government developed under the Roman constitution.

2018-09-07 21:23:37 UTC

@campodin you said by definition

2018-09-07 21:23:44 UTC

no definition of republic is mixed gov

2018-09-07 21:24:06 UTC

It is a mixed government by definition

2018-09-07 21:24:14 UTC

no

2018-09-07 21:24:19 UTC

every single republic is a mixed government

2018-09-07 21:24:40 UTC

thats a way to interpret it

2018-09-07 21:24:42 UTC

but your doing this

2018-09-07 21:25:23 UTC

"a republic has elected officials and an appointed or elected leader- a republic is a mixed gov- a mixed gov can be non democratic"

2018-09-07 21:25:46 UTC

CAN BE

2018-09-07 21:25:52 UTC

republics are always democratic

2018-09-07 21:26:08 UTC

republics always have democratic elements

The termย republicย was first coinedย c.ย 500 BCE in Rome, but over time the term has undergone several changes in meaning. Initially the Latin termย res publicaย signified the earlier "partial form of democracy" as found in Rome fromย c.ย 500 BCE untilย c.ย 27 BCE. In this early Roman partial-democracy, the power of the aristocratic orย patricianย class who held all of the seats in the Roman Senate, was checked by the institution of theย consulship, whose two consul/vice-rulers were elected annually by the free citizens orย plebesย of Rome. The ancient Roman definition of the word differs from the modern use of the term, where no leadership positions are held to be restricted to only the "ruling class".[10][11]

2018-09-07 21:26:46 UTC

in the case of appointed leader that refrences a parliamentary system

2018-09-07 21:26:55 UTC

which is still democratic

In an old Republic there are positions you can only get by inheritance.

2018-09-07 21:28:34 UTC

@Summฤซ Imperator, ๅ‘ชใ„ๆฎฟ exactly. democracy, aristocracy, and oligarchy

2018-09-07 21:29:01 UTC

@Summฤซ Imperator, ๅ‘ชใ„ๆฎฟ in modern republic, there are positions the president appoints

Yes, but those aren't the same.

2018-09-07 21:29:21 UTC

sorry not oligarchy, that is the same as aristocracy

More or less.

2018-09-07 21:30:04 UTC

if everyone has the **ability** to become a member of the state, its a democracy

2018-09-07 21:30:15 UTC

@Doctor Anon can you take me off the Polls rank

2018-09-07 21:30:16 UTC

with the dictatorship, rome even included the "monarchy" aspect

2018-09-07 21:30:20 UTC

@L0GAN would anyone actually run for a position in the server tho

2018-09-07 21:30:35 UTC

@Doctor Anon i would

2018-09-07 21:30:38 UTC

zexy probs would

Democracy is when you can get any title without inheritance.

2018-09-07 21:30:42 UTC

a lot would

2018-09-07 21:30:52 UTC

"do you want power in a big server"

I'll run.

2018-09-07 21:31:00 UTC

@Classy Done

2018-09-07 21:31:05 UTC
2018-09-07 21:31:14 UTC

Zexy hates this server Logan

2018-09-07 21:31:19 UTC

Thank you

2018-09-07 21:31:19 UTC

Are you mental

2018-09-07 21:31:20 UTC

exactly

2018-09-07 21:31:26 UTC

so shell try to destroy it

2018-09-07 21:31:36 UTC

a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives. @campodin

2018-09-07 21:31:38 UTC

L0GAN the communist

2018-09-07 21:31:44 UTC

Yeah no u ain't running

2018-09-07 21:31:48 UTC

I was a stalinist first of all

2018-09-07 21:31:53 UTC

and I ***Was***

2018-09-07 21:32:01 UTC

i was more of a shitposter in the first place tho

2018-09-07 21:32:08 UTC

Communist Cafe 2.0

2018-09-07 21:32:15 UTC

it died

2018-09-07 21:32:30 UTC

Hahaha

2018-09-07 21:32:35 UTC

Of course it did

A Republic in the sense of Res Republica is a partial democracy.

2018-09-07 21:32:36 UTC

I stopped tending to it

2018-09-07 21:32:41 UTC

my staff are shit

2018-09-07 21:32:42 UTC

Communism kills anything it touches

2018-09-07 21:32:44 UTC

so it died

Because there are titles in the government you can inherit.

2018-09-07 21:32:51 UTC

@Doctor Anon without a strong dictator

2018-09-07 21:32:57 UTC

a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

2018-09-07 21:33:00 UTC

@L0GAN there are many republics with positions that are only inheritable or appointable

2018-09-07 21:33:01 UTC

no

2018-09-07 21:33:01 UTC

@L0GAN how many members at the time of death

2018-09-07 21:33:05 UTC

i am here\

2018-09-07 21:33:09 UTC

@campodin still a democracy

2018-09-07 21:33:24 UTC
2018-09-07 21:33:28 UTC

if everyone has the ability to become a member of the gov, its democracy

Not everyone does.

2018-09-07 21:33:43 UTC

In the sense of Res Republica.

2018-09-07 21:34:00 UTC

Y say oof

2018-09-07 21:34:08 UTC

Damn it's split <#452955204313153556>

2018-09-07 21:34:13 UTC

lol no that is not democracy if there are parts of the government that are not influenced by democratic vote

2018-09-07 21:34:18 UTC

@campodin is canada a democracy?

2018-09-07 21:34:38 UTC

it is far too democratic

2018-09-07 21:34:52 UTC

but it has a constitutional monarchy...

2018-09-07 21:34:57 UTC

an inherited role

2018-09-07 21:34:59 UTC

so...

2018-09-07 21:35:02 UTC

by your logic

2018-09-07 21:35:05 UTC

its not a democracy

It's a partial democracy.

2018-09-07 21:35:16 UTC

the monarch is powerless

2018-09-07 21:35:20 UTC

no

The power of the crown is governed by a leader appointed from the citizens of the country.

By recommendation of the PM.

Who is elected by Members of their party via general election.

2018-09-07 21:36:10 UTC

what has the queen done to affect the governance of canada?

2018-09-07 21:36:11 UTC

executive authority remains vested in the Crown and is only entrusted by the sovereign to their government on behalf of the people

2018-09-07 21:37:23 UTC

like legit, the queen could start a WWIII at any time if she wanted

That's true

She is the commander of our military.

2018-09-07 21:38:12 UTC

she has executive authority in a large number of countries

But the Governor general is the commander of the civilian government.

2018-09-07 21:38:27 UTC

none of the former colonies are obligated to join in the war, as far as I'm aware

Which is an appointment by the crown via Parliament.

2018-09-07 21:38:37 UTC

@campodin she has executive authority

2018-09-07 21:38:45 UTC

theres this thing called the commonwealth

It's true, Camp.

2018-09-07 21:39:09 UTC

when has she exercised it though?

The Queen can call Canada to war.

2018-09-07 21:39:22 UTC

of course shed likely get overthrown if she started a WWIII but her being overthrown would likely cause it aswell

2018-09-07 21:39:27 UTC

@campodin never luckily

2018-09-07 21:39:44 UTC

but thats why im worried about the future of the commonwealth

2018-09-07 21:39:56 UTC

if there IS another monarch, what if they went mad?

2018-09-07 21:40:04 UTC

them being overthrown would cause a world war

2018-09-07 21:40:10 UTC

them being mad would cause a world war

2018-09-07 21:40:14 UTC

that's the problem, she is effectively powerless, and canada runs as an effective democracy

"Effective"

2018-09-07 21:40:34 UTC

shes far from powerless

2018-09-07 21:41:02 UTC

what does the potential matter for the current state of the nation?

I think Logan is just arguing her power is very real.

2018-09-07 21:42:12 UTC

she just doesnt use it

2018-09-07 21:42:27 UTC

it would be like a one time thing

2018-09-07 21:42:40 UTC

because shed get overthrown afterwards but it wouldve already happened

Ultimately it would be up to the people if we heed the call, but the powers of the Crown are still very real.

2018-09-07 21:42:48 UTC

and many would be loyal to her

2018-09-07 21:42:50 UTC

pm's should be done away with. let the queen govern instead

She's far too old.

2018-09-07 21:43:19 UTC

i know

2018-09-07 21:43:47 UTC

and the royal family is becoming blacked

This PM should be done away with and allow somebody to rule in the interim until the next election.

2018-09-07 21:45:28 UTC

having a monarchy with absolutely no opposition is idiotic

2018-09-07 21:45:42 UTC

then they can start a world war 3, get away with it, and then do it again

2018-09-07 21:45:45 UTC

what do you mean no opposition?

2018-09-07 21:46:06 UTC

"let the queen govern instead"

2018-09-07 21:46:28 UTC

she doesn't have absolute power

Well, it worked decently well until it became a Constitutional Monarchy.

2018-09-07 21:46:51 UTC

magna carta, ever heard of it?

2018-09-07 21:46:52 UTC

Seeing as the decline came after.

That's what generals are for?

2018-09-07 21:47:29 UTC

@campodin magna carta doesnt say "queen cant start world war 3"

2018-09-07 21:47:47 UTC

it just says she cant violate rights of her people

2018-09-07 21:47:54 UTC

declaring war isnt violation

2018-09-07 21:48:30 UTC

well, nothing is stopping her now according to you either

2018-09-07 21:48:44 UTC

no thats nto what i said

2018-09-07 21:48:50 UTC

i said she would get overthrown now causing ti to happen anyway

2018-09-07 21:49:03 UTC

if she did it back then shed get away with it

2018-09-07 21:49:11 UTC

"like legit, the queen could start a WWIII at any time if she wanted"

2018-09-07 21:49:21 UTC

"of course shed likely get overthrown if she started a WWIII but her being overthrown would likely cause it aswell"

She could declare it

I don't know about start.

2018-09-07 21:49:43 UTC

this all started because you thought the queen had no power

2018-09-07 21:49:45 UTC

i said she does

2018-09-07 21:49:46 UTC

and she does

2018-09-07 21:49:55 UTC

her governing instead of pm, wouldn't change that

The Queen does have power.

2018-09-07 21:50:12 UTC

shed have more power if she governed as pm

That's the fact of the matter.

2018-09-07 21:50:23 UTC

because then shes the sole political and religous/celebratory leader

She would just be the Queen still

2018-09-07 21:50:44 UTC

I said get rid of pm

2018-09-07 21:50:59 UTC

the pm is the political leader

PM is the guy that controls the civilians and Commons.

2018-09-07 21:51:29 UTC

the queen is a celebratory leader with limited dictatorship like abilities

2018-09-07 21:51:45 UTC

your talking about the prime minister right?

2018-09-07 21:52:09 UTC

the prime minister has taken the place of the queen in the lives of uk citizens and the commonwealth

2018-09-07 21:52:09 UTC

if he controls the citizens and gov, hes the political leader

2018-09-07 21:52:28 UTC

not really

2018-09-07 21:52:46 UTC

a single pm doesnt have executive power over all of the common wealth

2018-09-07 21:52:53 UTC

maybe in the eyes of the uk

I think you mean monarchist powers.

2018-09-07 21:53:00 UTC

but they still celebrate the queen

2018-09-07 21:53:11 UTC

yeah, by queen I mean monarch

2018-09-07 21:53:19 UTC

the crown

2018-09-07 21:53:28 UTC

same thing

The Crown is Parliament

In Canada

Parliament gets its authority from the Queen.

And is thus referred to as the Crown.

2018-09-07 21:54:45 UTC

ok, so in canada is the prime minister elected directly?

The PM is the leader of the party that is elected to office with the most seats.

And the Leader is elected by the members of the parties

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