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that alone is loosely defined
> : The point of socialism is communism
I was responding to that
I dont want this bullshit socialism we have, I don't want marxism, I dont want communism
no bolshevism
You want more theft for your personal interest
you might as well be a communist
no. it is differnent. very different. NatSoc is opposed to communism
this is used a lot, but we usually control what laws come, but you have to consider that because we have a huge say, then we should be willingly to do what the government does
National Socialism is communism without a racial or nationalistic component
the government doesn't do things nicely it does everything by force
> National Socialism is communism without a racial or nationalistic component
it's not
(and that quote doesn't even make sense anyway. But know what I think you want to mean)
Strasserism and National Bolshevikism are nazi ideologies that are communist
so if you want more socialism then you want people with guns to come up to people and point the guns guns at them to take their money
so it's very important where that money goes
I don't get this. You can dislike it, but might as well debate it intellectually honestly.
but you don't
I gotta go now tho
10/10 argument
'you don't'
'gotta go'
lmao
no, I was going to have to leave
did I need to say earlier so that you couldn't hold it against me?
I wasn't paying attention to everything you said
but that's fari
fair
I don't think you engage it intellectually honestly. A lot of people don't. But we disagree on what is happening in the system as it. It is often viewed from the wrong framework to defeat it. But I can come back another time if you wish to debate this further.
sure
National socialism is gibmedats for ypipo
I try to remain consistent, let me know if I don't next time we talk
nazbol and strasserism aren't even communist
strasserism only supports the workers owning half the enterprise
We disagree on some things which I'm sure naturally leads to perceived intellectual dishonesty. But there were also several of you to keep track of and just me on my side. I've no intention to mischaracterize if you are indeed debating in good faith. I was also in a bit of a rush at the time. I'll bring it back up later if you like.
I'm not really in the business of proselytizing for NatSoc as people mostly make up their mind on their own, and they often have some annoying misconceptions I'm not really keen to battle against. They will know and understand what they want a lot of times. This conversation just sorta happened. Debates are nice, but it's kinda pointless. CivNats/Libertarians aren't likely to relate with the notions of NatSoc. @Deleted User
natsoc is a system of pragmatism for the spiritual vanguard of the race
when it comes to politics
to ascribe an economic system to the worldview/philosophy is dangerous and dishonest
the first political rendition of national socialism, the NSDAP, followed very open market policies that collaborated with labor, giving precedent to social corporatism and social markets in general
even if they ended up going a different route than the original NSDAP labor and capital collaboration
@Deleted User you don't know what socialism is
@everyone ๐ Daily Question
Are people entitled to any โhuman rightsโ? If so, which ones?
The right to free speech and the right to bear arms.
What about the other 8 amendments in the bill of rights
+the parts about the 1st you didnโt mention
the right to life only
Depends on what framework you are working under. I'd say no. Might makes right.
also u mum gay
The right to live and freedom of speech should be considered Human Rights
oh sorry i read the question wrong
Everything else stems from these two rights.
thanks
Well not exactly stem, but are products of
Iโd agree
>semantics
might makes right
human rights are a meme
Human have very few "rights" of them they are all god gifted and granted unable to be taken by the goverment. These rights include the right to assemble peacfully bare (Any) arms, and to speak with out prosicution.
Human rights are whatever humans can eek out
Human rights don't exist lel
Any rights that do "exist" are artificial and created by humans who feel it's their right
wow the larp just gave me cancer
god did not say that people could bear (not bare) arms
it's just a good idea
right to life and liberty seem like human rights too me but they're pretty vague and can be interpreted problematically btw
@everyone ๐ Daily Question 2
With Donald Trump's nomination of SCOTUS justice Bret Kavanaugh many say Roe v. Wade will be repealed. Do you think that is likely? Would you support that decision?
Hmm
It is unlikely unless the constitution is amended.
no and no
Maybe and I am split
Unlikely
But
yeah they won't straight overturn roe v. wade
If it happened I wouldn't care
And would support it
they'll just slowly take away abortion powers through other means
abortion powers
that's not a thing
the point is they'll go around it
And no I wouldn't support the decision, there are entirely reasonable reasons to kill a child.
im pro abortion so
Cant just overturn a decision unless its presented in a court case
definitely not likely, can't imagine it would get enough votes to be repealed even if this one guy wanted it to be.
also i support abortion in its current state because it kills a highly disproportionate amount of ni99er babies. it's racial eugenics and it's great. we should stop white abortions tho, except for eugenic purposes as well.
wut
As long as no one brings up a court case like that they have nothing to worry about
someone will
mississippi will pass a law imposing unconstitutional restrictions again
and appeal it to the SCoTUS
and get defeated there
like normal
i hate christians so much for this anti abortion stuff
it'll only get partially repealed
is the worry
"oh i'm christian we love everyone we need to take in all the burritos and apes and tusken raiders because we care about everrryyooooone"
irrelevant
All abortion is murder, change my mind.
Well
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