it is

Liberty is what let this socialism you see today happen

not all socialism is marxist socialism

Socialism is granting everyone the same output when everyone does put in the same effort

communism is something else from what I'm talking about.

doesn't

that alone is loosely defined

> : The point of socialism is communism
I was responding to that

I dont want this bullshit socialism we have, I don't want marxism, I dont want communism

no bolshevism

You want more theft for your personal interest

you might as well be a communist

no. it is differnent. very different. NatSoc is opposed to communism

this is used a lot, but we usually control what laws come, but you have to consider that because we have a huge say, then we should be willingly to do what the government does

National Socialism is communism without a racial or nationalistic component

the government doesn't do things nicely it does everything by force

> National Socialism is communism without a racial or nationalistic component
it's not
(and that quote doesn't even make sense anyway. But know what I think you want to mean)

Strasserism and National Bolshevikism are nazi ideologies that are communist

so if you want more socialism then you want people with guns to come up to people and point the guns guns at them to take their money

so it's very important where that money goes

I don't get this. You can dislike it, but might as well debate it intellectually honestly.

but you don't

I gotta go now tho

10/10 argument

'you don't'

'gotta go'

lmao

no, I was going to have to leave

did I need to say earlier so that you couldn't hold it against me?

I wasn't paying attention to everything you said

but that's fari

fair

I don't think you engage it intellectually honestly. A lot of people don't. But we disagree on what is happening in the system as it. It is often viewed from the wrong framework to defeat it. But I can come back another time if you wish to debate this further.

sure

National socialism is gibmedats for ypipo

I try to remain consistent, let me know if I don't next time we talk

nazbol and strasserism aren't even communist

strasserism only supports the workers owning half the enterprise

We disagree on some things which I'm sure naturally leads to perceived intellectual dishonesty. But there were also several of you to keep track of and just me on my side. I've no intention to mischaracterize if you are indeed debating in good faith. I was also in a bit of a rush at the time. I'll bring it back up later if you like.

I'm not really in the business of proselytizing for NatSoc as people mostly make up their mind on their own, and they often have some annoying misconceptions I'm not really keen to battle against. They will know and understand what they want a lot of times. This conversation just sorta happened. Debates are nice, but it's kinda pointless. CivNats/Libertarians aren't likely to relate with the notions of NatSoc. @Deleted User

natsoc is a system of pragmatism for the spiritual vanguard of the race

when it comes to politics