Liberty has produced the monstrosity we see today.

no it has not

socialism has

omg

Y'know, Venezuela

communism is the opposite lol

The point of socialism is communism

Communism is the disregarding of human nature in its fullest

it is

Liberty is what let this socialism you see today happen

not all socialism is marxist socialism

Socialism is granting everyone the same output when everyone does put in the same effort

communism is something else from what I'm talking about.

doesn't

that alone is loosely defined

> : The point of socialism is communism
I was responding to that

I dont want this bullshit socialism we have, I don't want marxism, I dont want communism

no bolshevism

You want more theft for your personal interest

you might as well be a communist

no. it is differnent. very different. NatSoc is opposed to communism

this is used a lot, but we usually control what laws come, but you have to consider that because we have a huge say, then we should be willingly to do what the government does

National Socialism is communism without a racial or nationalistic component

the government doesn't do things nicely it does everything by force

> National Socialism is communism without a racial or nationalistic component
it's not
(and that quote doesn't even make sense anyway. But know what I think you want to mean)

Strasserism and National Bolshevikism are nazi ideologies that are communist

so if you want more socialism then you want people with guns to come up to people and point the guns guns at them to take their money

so it's very important where that money goes

I don't get this. You can dislike it, but might as well debate it intellectually honestly.

but you don't

I gotta go now tho

10/10 argument

'you don't'

'gotta go'

lmao

no, I was going to have to leave

did I need to say earlier so that you couldn't hold it against me?

I wasn't paying attention to everything you said

but that's fari

fair

I don't think you engage it intellectually honestly. A lot of people don't. But we disagree on what is happening in the system as it. It is often viewed from the wrong framework to defeat it. But I can come back another time if you wish to debate this further.