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2018-08-28 22:50:38 UTC

@The American Nationalist I'm not but okay.

2018-08-28 22:51:17 UTC

*anarchoreign is yping*

2018-08-28 22:51:29 UTC

"anarchoreign is typing"
Here comes dat boi

2018-08-28 22:52:09 UTC

<:noyoudidnt:459545660698525696>

2018-08-28 22:52:13 UTC

"the government" makes this question far too vague to answer, you'd need to specify what level of government to be more specific. At the national level, it should be to ensure the rights of its people, both individual rights in the negative and positive, as well as the collective/communal rights

2018-08-28 22:52:37 UTC

"communal"

2018-08-28 22:52:47 UTC
2018-08-28 22:52:59 UTC

Fucking commie get in the helicopter

2018-08-28 22:53:00 UTC

The one world state that I believe will inevitable arrive should be an ayn rand minarchist state

2018-08-28 22:53:29 UTC

Objectivist Gang lol

2018-08-28 22:53:38 UTC

the state needs to get rid of individuals that threaten the culture

2018-08-28 22:53:40 UTC

change my mind

2018-08-28 22:53:47 UTC

But that can't happen in a global form imo

2018-08-28 22:53:54 UTC

Globalism is retarded

2018-08-28 22:53:59 UTC

@The American Nationalist I mean i don't disagree

2018-08-28 22:53:59 UTC

end globalism

2018-08-28 22:54:13 UTC

Just so long as their rights stay in tact

2018-08-28 22:54:36 UTC

its the state that gives rights

2018-08-28 22:54:37 UTC

All subversives should be treated as traitors

2018-08-28 22:54:43 UTC

**N AT I O N A L S E L F I N T E R E S T**

2018-08-28 22:54:55 UTC

legal rights yes

2018-08-28 22:55:26 UTC

@The American Nationalist The state's duty is to protect rights, not give them. Rights are not rights if they can be taken away by the government.

2018-08-28 22:55:57 UTC

@Doctor Anon It only grants you legal rights that are based on inalienable natural rights

2018-08-28 22:56:27 UTC

Freedom of Speech is absolutely essential, change my mind

2018-08-28 22:56:37 UTC

people will say things that hurt the state

2018-08-28 22:56:53 UTC

@The American Nationalist Not always a bad thing

2018-08-28 22:57:05 UTC

The state is fallible

2018-08-28 22:57:17 UTC

It should be pointed out so it can improve on it

2018-08-28 22:57:52 UTC

Freedom of Association is just as essential, probably more imo

2018-08-28 22:58:18 UTC
2018-08-28 22:58:51 UTC

people never do it out of good intention, they do it for power, wether it's good or not is up to your own judgement

2018-08-28 22:59:59 UTC

@J E S S E anarchist

2018-08-28 23:00:28 UTC

I don't care about the state. It is only important in protecting the nation and its people. Outside of that it can get out of my life.

2018-08-28 23:01:34 UTC
2018-08-28 23:02:52 UTC

news: fascist dabs on local libertarian anarchist

2018-08-28 23:10:23 UTC

lmao

2018-08-28 23:12:21 UTC

what is a collective, if not for group of individuals?

2018-08-28 23:15:33 UTC

fascism protects the individual

2018-08-28 23:16:07 UTC

@Alice Redacted <:facepalm:459545653509357578> <:YouTried:459545653723398144>

2018-08-28 23:17:28 UTC

what I'm trying to get at

2018-08-28 23:17:44 UTC

is that serving the "collective" without regard to the individual

2018-08-28 23:17:47 UTC

is pointless

2018-08-28 23:17:56 UTC

as you're just going to cause the collective to suffer

2018-08-28 23:18:21 UTC

''What is the primary purpose of government? What should the role of a nation's leaders be?'' to protect its citizens and make sure the economy is well. The role of a nation's leader should be to deal with foreign affairs

2018-08-28 23:19:19 UTC

i value the culture and traditions above the economy

2018-08-28 23:19:27 UTC

but the economy is important

2018-08-28 23:19:28 UTC

@Alice Redacted did you learn that from Sargon? Because those are some low IQ arguments

2018-08-28 23:19:39 UTC

nah

2018-08-28 23:19:40 UTC

fuck sargon

2018-08-28 23:19:47 UTC

Also, what culture and traditions?

2018-08-28 23:19:56 UTC

Why should culture and traditions be upheld?

2018-08-28 23:20:02 UTC

religious war now

2018-08-28 23:20:06 UTC

They deserve to be questioned

2018-08-28 23:20:21 UTC

tradition holds nothing over progress, equality, and liberty

2018-08-28 23:20:24 UTC

@Alice Redacted you sound like a subversive

2018-08-28 23:20:28 UTC

i disagree

2018-08-28 23:20:37 UTC

why?

2018-08-28 23:20:40 UTC

equality does not matter except for opprotunity

2018-08-28 23:21:00 UTC

liberty if threatning to destroy the nation means nothing

2018-08-28 23:21:01 UTC

Everyone should have equal opportunity upon birth, yes, we agree

2018-08-28 23:21:06 UTC

"Progress" "equality"

2018-08-28 23:21:14 UTC

fascism is utopia

2018-08-28 23:21:15 UTC

Nobody should starve, either...

2018-08-28 23:21:16 UTC

so yeah progress

2018-08-28 23:21:18 UTC

to fascism

2018-08-28 23:21:19 UTC

okay

2018-08-28 23:21:19 UTC

so

2018-08-28 23:21:23 UTC

"I believe in equality"

2018-08-28 23:21:27 UTC

*Supports autocracy*

2018-08-28 23:21:31 UTC

1. protect citizens. 2. establish a societal goal, whether it be patronage of the arts, exploration, science, etc. 3. foster a healthy cultural environment that allows family, religion, and community to be fully integrated into the society at large. 4. Create a healthy environment of educational competition, where achievement is not discouraged and the brightest minds are allowed to shine.

2018-08-28 23:21:49 UTC

we could have a council with absolute power

2018-08-28 23:22:06 UTC

and a head diplomat to deal with foreign affairs and wars

2018-08-28 23:22:24 UTC

I absolutely do not believe in equality, for the record. IMO its one of the chief thought-cancers that effect the west

2018-08-28 23:22:26 UTC

>progress,
lol
>equality
lol
>and liberty
top lel

2018-08-28 23:22:40 UTC

nothing wrong with progress

2018-08-28 23:22:46 UTC

aslong as we progress to a correct society

2018-08-28 23:23:00 UTC

go put a dildo in your ass

2018-08-28 23:23:04 UTC

Culture is the most important determining factor in a society's success

2018-08-28 23:23:07 UTC

yep. If you make a wrong turn in the forest, its progress to turn backwards to find your way back to the correct path

2018-08-28 23:23:13 UTC

@campodin is correct

2018-08-28 23:23:14 UTC

I mean

2018-08-28 23:23:16 UTC

I gladly will

2018-08-28 23:23:19 UTC

in like an hour or two

2018-08-28 23:23:20 UTC
2018-08-28 23:23:21 UTC

and nah, not really

2018-08-28 23:23:27 UTC

natural resources are more vital to success

2018-08-28 23:23:36 UTC

culture is a byproduct of economic success

2018-08-28 23:23:43 UTC

you need a forewarn thinking culture which allows for success, too

2018-08-28 23:23:48 UTC

lead is ancap gang

2018-08-28 23:23:50 UTC

as in, one which doesn't try to stifle progress

2018-08-28 23:23:57 UTC

culture is a by product of environment

2018-08-28 23:24:04 UTC

Cold areas are more friendly

2018-08-28 23:24:05 UTC

wrong

2018-08-28 23:24:05 UTC

etc.

2018-08-28 23:24:08 UTC

culture's a product of the economy and environment

2018-08-28 23:24:14 UTC

it's natural and fluid

2018-08-28 23:24:17 UTC

economy is a product of environment

2018-08-28 23:24:18 UTC

It's pointless to enforce

2018-08-28 23:24:21 UTC

Culture should be questioned

2018-08-28 23:24:29 UTC

environment has an effect on the development of culture, but its not a primary cause

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